Chicken vs Egg

The compression artifacts (from converting B/W line art to jpg) being printed on the page have given me a new pet peeve

At which point does an egg of non-chicken become an egg of chicken?

The chicken vs egg question has never been about chronology or science.

It’s been about religion vs science.

Science says the egg came first: something nearly imperceptibly not quite a chicken laid an egg that hatched a chicken. That’s how evolution works, with the egg coming first.

Religion says a god poofed a chicken into existence. The chicken came first, and only ever laid pure chicken eggs. The eggs will forever hatch a chicken and nothing but a chicken.

That’s the chicken vs egg thing. It’s not a puzzle at all, it’s just science vs religion.

e: simplified. I’m too wordy by default.

I don't like this because it's not addressing the actual saying. Obviously the saying is about chicken eggs specifically.

But I've always felt obviously the egg came first. The first chicken was born in an egg, so the egg came first. That egg could have been produced from a creature with a mutation which caused it to produce the first chicken egg when it is not itself the exact same species.

I very much like that I have a clear cut answer for this now.

Over time, a population of proto-chickens lay eggs with unique genetic variations that randomly direct the population towards laying eggs that result in modern chickens. The egg comes first, and it's a whole bunch of them

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That's some good jpeg

I know this is a science meme community but the amount of factually inaccurate comments is concerning.

This cladogram is outdated about turtles, which are no longer considered the most phylogenetically basal reptiles.

TIL turtles are older than crocodiles

The snake and lizard branch is wrong. I care very much about the accuracy of memes, and I have to point out that many lizards are more closely related to snakes than they are to other lizards.

But which came first:

The chicken or the chicken's egg? Did the first chicken come from a chicken egg? Or did it come from a snake egg?

Are chickens even real?

As a child I was really into dinosaurs and came to this conclusion

The egg came first. To the chickens disappointment and, who left to find a more satisfying partner.

Forget the chicken. What came first, the tardigrade, or the egg? Well, in this case, I think the tardigrade would have to exist first.

Maybe they meant chicken eggs but I guess the chicken egg is still first in that case

An egg is technically a single cell. So, eggs came first as those were the first forms of life.

I guess the tree branch needs to start somewhere, but why leave out amphibians?

And now everybody together... C O E V O L U T I O N

I thought this was a T-shirt and now I want it on a tshirt

egg laying animals came long before chickens, why was that ever hard to figure out for anyone?

I haven't understood how this question seems difficult to so many. Not trying to put anyone down, but chicks hatch from eggs. In order for a chicken to be classified as a chicken (as we know it to be), it would have hatched out of an egg.

I love charts without units and labeled axes.