Fewer people in the US plan to buy EVs this year, study shows
Fewer people in the US plan to buy EVs this year, study shows
The number of buyers in the U.S. considering an electric vehicle purchase in 2024 has fallen from a year ago due to a shortage of affordable cars, inadequate charging infrastructure and ignorance about EV benefits, a study by J.D. Power, opens new tab has shown.
Other factors contributing to waning EV demand in the United States include stubborn inflation, high interest rates and underwhelming growth in model availability, the study said.
The options are basically an SUV with a giant touch screen and data harvesting, plus a cell phone connection so they can brick your car with a software update. None of that is appealing to me.
Thats describing nearly all 2024 models irrespective of their drivetrain.
FTC is warming up the fire on the data harvesting at least.
Assuming Biden makes it through this election, we may have 4 more years of Lina Khan just absolutely fucking bastards up.
All for the low, low cost of 50 grand or more
They're relatively pricey, they're hard to find, you likely can't charge one if you live in an apartment or rent a house and the economy is in the shitter.
So yeah.
Also biden just dropped 100% tariff on affordable Chinese EVs
That does not help, but even if you remove my first issue because they are more affordable, there are still the other two issues.
Ah right, because so many Americans were buying Chinese cars of any kind before the tariff lol
Many are discounting their cars quite a bit, especially leases. My state added in an instant rebate that brings down some bz4x trims to $60/month for the years. That would actually pay for itself with gas savings.
Apartment charging is still an issue that needs to be solved. But home rental shouldn't be much of an issue if there is an outdoor outlet. Charging at level 1 will get you between 3-5 miles per hour of charge which will top 50-80% of people up overnight.
Edit: fixed autocorrect typos.
Well, when the people that could afford to buy one and were considering it in former years ended up buying one and the people who were waiting for them to become more affordable were met with the news that their only hope for a cheap option was artificially doubled in price overnight to try to prolong the death knells of American hegemony then your left with fewer people considering them.
I've wanted one for many years - but so far there is still no EV minivan for sale, and that is what my family needs right now.
their only hope for a cheap option was artificially doubled in price overnight
Not true.
A smaller platform? Say, perhaps, a sedan? Like they universally stopped making across all their brands in favor of SUVs and pickups?
This gave me a boner
Well make one that doesn’t fucking cost 50k and I would.
I don't want...
- To cost no more than $30k
- To be huge
- To track everything I do to sell to 3rd parties
- To go like a race car, just be fast enough like a 4 banger
You bring me an EV that can doe those 4 things and have the range of a gas powered car 300-400 miles and be purchasable in the United States (where I am located), and I will buy one tomorrow.
bingo.
I have a turbo 4cycliner that gets 40mpg. it costs me about $30 a month to fill up. it cost me 19K new 5 years ago.
i'm looking at a new car. I want a hybrid small truck or a hybrid wagon. no such EV exists. I will probably get a Toyota Stout, since the new Tacoma seems fantastic.
I've been actively suggesting to those who ask my opinion that they should wait until 2025 and more models coming out with NACS charging integrated. Tesla may be a shitshow but you can't (yet) beat the charging infrastructure and adapters are never as good.
Also, the market is changing so rapidly that it's hard to justify most of the current offerings.
When he fired all 500 members of the Tesla supercharger team out of spite, a lot of those common plug agreements got real shakey. That team was responsible for integrating all the different manufacturers into the Tesla ecosystem, which is a much bigger lift then just a plug and some protocols.
Right now they dont even have anyone who knows who was installing what, where. Coordinating integration of a dozen billion dollar car brands into infastructure Tesla now doesnt even understand? We might be waiting till 2026 or never for that to happen.
Definitely a good time to consider a lease. You don’t want to be saddled with something outdated in a year or two. Leases are ok for precisely this situation where you want to get frequent new cars and not keep the old. While technology is changed by so fast, why not?
I did go ahead with a purchase but I considered it. I believe Tesla currently has a fantastic deal on A Model 3 lease so maybe that would have changed something but it’s too late for me
1 extra year will help to see how the batteries actual perform. After 10 years a Tesla's battery is under 80% of its original capacity, you're at the point of losing 1/4, 25%, of range. Not sure how many fail completely.
I'm waiting on the EV makers to pivot away from huge vehicles (https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/02/ford-rethinks-ev-strategy-is-working-on-a-smaller-cheaper-ev-platform/). I'm waiting for better charging infrastructure or at the very least a consensus on what plug is going to be used. I'm waiting for cars to be able to power homes during a power outage.
I don't think this is far away, maybe 2025 or 2026. However, it's not a great couple of years to buy right now. As I have a Camry in pretty good condition and don't drive a ton ... I fully intend to wait until I'm really ready to buy. As much as I want an EV, I want a good EV not debt for the sake of an ideal.
Right? It's not because people don't want them, it's because people don't want the specific ones they're selling and people want to be able to get from point a to b in them. I want one but I also have a pretty fuel efficient vehicle with low miles because I basically drive to the grocery store and maybe one other place each week so I'm sure as shit not trading it in for a massive vehicle that costs 3x more than it needs to.
I'm just gonna leave this right here:
Do you honestly think Biden is making the argument that China will pay for these tariffs? So far he's been pretty clear that it's about giving American companies an advantage here, not about making China pay.
. . . and that's exactly what Trump was claiming too. My point is that both mainstream parties do the same things with the same justifications while decrying the other.
I am waiting until there are a lot of 20k cars to choose from.
Hmm no one wants shitty cars? Shocker.
It’s not EV that makes them shitty. It’s everything else they’ve enshitified.
"opens new tab"
What?