So these people are adventurists. They say "fuck the communists" and call for acts of individualist terrorism. This is anti-Leninist thought. Do not do adventurism.
Here is a work by Lenin where he criticizes adventurism. As example, he criticizes socialist Stepan Balmashov for assassinating Russian politician Dmitry Sipyagin. Lenin writes, "everyone knows and sees perfectly well that this act was in no way connected with the masses and, moreover, could not have been by reason of the very way in which it was carried out—that the persons who committed this terrorist act neither counted on nor hoped for any definite action or support on the part of the masses. In their naïveté, the Socialist-Revolutionaries do not realise that their predilection for terrorism is causally most intimately linked with the fact that, from the very outset, they have always kept, and still keep, aloof from the working-class movement, without even attempting to become a party of the revolutionary class which is waging its class struggle."
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1902/sep/01.htm
"fuck the Communist pieces of shit"? These either some feds or some sectarians; either way, they can go and get fucked right back with they cracker asses.
And no, before someone comes to me talking about "buhhhhhh pwease no fedjacket 🥺" these are not allies, not comrades, not anyone worth uplifting if they're gonna put "fuck the Communist pieces of shit" directly in a manifesto they intended for mass consumption. They want to put out that 'fuck them' energy, can't NOBODY be surprised when everyone around them keeps that same energy.
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I guess this is the thread where hexbear learns that the student occupations are overwhelmingly organized by anarchist groups who don't like the PSL. I don't know of any exceptions but would be happy to hear them. Certainly communists participated in the organization but it was predominantly an anarchist show.
It sucks these people are being overtly sectarian but you didn't hear much blowback here before this statement came out. Now it's adventurist this, fed that. Come on!
What these people have done is brave, but if you are going to do adventurism, you might as well have fried some bacon as well, to really prove to me that you are serious. These people are just as afraid of confrontation with the larger problem as the current Communist parties are. They think property damage to completely unrelated parties is enough to bring about divestment, when any university that 'stands firm against chaos' has the potential to receive millions of dollars in endowments (bribes) from the powers that be.
I am going to use this little sideline action here to finally say what I say about ALL student protestors or any kind of action like this. What they are doing is commendable, brave, and I would never tell them not to do it. But it will not change things.
The only thing that has even an iota of possibly changing things is long-term organized labor coupled with the threat of revolutionary violence and the will to follow through with that threat. It has to be both! The reason why you have to have both is because those that control labor control the wealth of the nation, and can prevent the state from just immediately rebuilding their losses. If you cannot do that, you will always, inevitably, lose. Fidel won not because of his revolutionary violence, but because everyone in the region he was in was willing to use their labor to support him and his movement, the same goes for the Viet Min and any other revolutionary organization that has ever been successful..
PPB cars
"take whatever autonomous action feels good"
PPB cars
The St Paul Principles are a good baseline for solidarity and support:
- our solidarity will be based on respect for a diversity of tactics and the plans of other groups.
- the actions and tactics used will be organized to maintain a separation of time or space.
- any debates or criticisms will stay internal to the movement, avoiding any public or media denunciations of fellow activists and events.
- we oppose any state repression of dissent, including surveillance, infiltration, disruption and violence. we agree not to assist law enforcement actions against activists and others.
From what I can tell, some folks messed up bad. I'm glad some cop cars got torched and I hope these folks avoid capture.
Try not to be too offended, comrades. Don't take the bait. I know some of you have had legitimately bad experiences with some anarchists, and please trust that some anarchists have had legitimately bad experiences with some communists. As someone who kind of straddles both communities, I still think we can all learn from each other and we should look for more opportunities to appreciate what each side is good at doing.
Critical support. Tbh I think this is a good strategy in general, there's only so much that public, legal, and peaceful tactics can do without a separate entity doing more dangerous but costly direct action. As far as specifics goes, what qualifies as adventurism and when it may be making things worse, idk. But clearly doing this as a separate entity from the student movements, while still voicing support for them, is correct. I believe it was George Jackson that advised a similar two-prong strategy.
Direct escalation usually isn't a good nor possible strategy by peaceful protestors, but peaceful protest isn't nearly enough and the modern prison system is far too massive to hope to gum up with nonviolent bodies.
The anti-communist bit is ignorant, but I think self-described communists are better off vocally supporting any action like this. Not sure if it's a sort of pick-me leftism or just typical sectarianism. But in any case, prove them wrong! Burn 30 cop cars in the name of communism!
Yeah... No, smells like bullshit from 100 kms
yeah fuck those commies, its propaganda of the deed time baby