A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
--Timothy 2:11-15
Basically any evangelical women should stfu and get back to the only thing the holy book says they're good for: pumping out babies. Great ethos you follow there, Margie. For such a believer why are you in congress instead of barefoot and pregnant?
And if you don't follow the OT, as you say, maybe stfu about everything other than loving everyone as Jesus commanded. And also get the fuck outta congress, because Jesus wanted a separation of church and state.
The funny thing is, 1 Timothy is in the New Testament. So, regardless of which one she wants to claim she's a fan of, both basically tell her to STFU and sit down.
I'm not saying either is right, but if she wants to claim to be a believer/follower, then she's clearly a hypocrite either way.
I don't think this is true - at least not in the Hebrew Bible (I don't know much about the Greek/Christian parts). What verse/ passage are you thinking of?
This looks like a gotcha, but all of these "marriages" are just different arrangements of their core definition of marriage, and it's exactly what they want: one man in power, and women as property.
Just for the sake of discussion, this logic unfortunately won't work on Christians like the crazy right-wingers in Congress because they have the privilege of cherry picking their beliefs.
The examples in this image all appear to be old testament rules, which means that for modern Christians, they apply when it is convenient and don't apply when it's not. Much of modern Christianity is founded on new covenant theology which asserts that Jesus "fulfilled" the old laws, and therefore the only ones that truly matter are the ones in the new testament.
So modern Christians don't have to worry about things like eating pork or wearing mixed fabrics, but they will still pick out any parts of the old testament that are conveniently aligned with their beliefs as the unquestionable "word of god" to get their way.
How does someone have more wives than concubines. I’ve always interpreted concubines as the equivalent of somewhere between fwb-polyamorous girlfriend but with extreme systemic misogyny and possible antiquitous slavery of course. I’ve got one of each of those modern roles and I could probably handle two wives, but each step up is more work. Then most of these fuckers with wives and concubines seem to have more wives. They must be terrible at having wives.
People that quote the Bible for reasons they need to do something terrible, never fucking use the Bible to do something good. Also, why don't they fallow the Bible 100%? If you are going to pick and choose which words of Fucking God you are going to adhere to, why choose only the ones that are convenient to you? (rhetorical) either follow the Bible 100% or get the fuck out of my face with your self gratifying moral righteousness.
Why? Why follow the Bible at all? Give me one good reason why I should take a whole book of questionable origin and follow it.
They didn't have DNA tests and hashing back in that time, there's no way to prove the texts are original this many hundreds of years later, and there are so many explanations for a "fatherless baby" (unconscious rape, concussed and memory loss, shame and withholding the truth, etc). So many pictures depict god in the clouds. Humans couldn't reach the skies back then. Now we can. Guess what? No magic man in the clouds. There are so many reasons not to believe the Bible it just blows my mind that anyone believes in it.
Yeah the way Jesus is presented is pretty dope actually, judge not, and just be excellent to each other. The rest of the Bible is the opposite of his "teachings".
And it's never explicitly said whose wedding he was at. For all we know, he might have been the groom. But they don't want to hear that he might have done what people did back then and got married.
Listen my marriage is just as abiblical for the fact that neither of us paid for each other as it is for us both being women. Also we were both adults in 2024 terms when we got married and I know that doesn’t happen much in that book.
My wife and I are cishet, but we told the guy who married us that we would accept absolutely nothing religious and no mentions of any gods at our ceremony, so we're abiblical as well.
From what I’ve seen from you around here you’re also abiblical because you married each other as loving equals
We’re our own esoteric styles of pagans so I just said my own prayers at our wedding. Mind you our wedding was my sister having us sign paperwork at a bar, so we broke a lot of traditional norms there lol. Sometimes you just have to get married really fast because a Supreme Court justice said he wants to take away your right to do so. Also because one of you needs health insurance