Average capitalism enjoyer

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe evidence points towards the pyramids being built by paid workers, and I think some even got to be buried in their own smaller pyramids
- Correct, except smaller pyramids, those were also for the kings only, workers building pyramids had their own cementaries iirc.
  But knowledge of this fact actually makes this meme even more relatable - the people in it were closer to wage slaves like us.
- Correct, conditions of the workers of the Pyramids and Temples
  -8 h per day, 6 days a week
  -Free housing, food and a small garden for themselves and their families
  -Medical assistance and care in sick leave due to illness and accident.
  -Exempt from paying taxes
  -Care and assistance for the old ex-workers.
  (better than today in most countries)
  Slaves (mostly prisoners of war and criminals) were naturally also used, but only for basic jobs and assistance. The Pharao knew very well that if he wants a job well done, he cannot get it with slaves and in poor conditions, but with well-cared and happy professionals.
  
  God damn, they got better healthcare than I do five thousand years later.
  
  So uhh, anyone building pyramids today?

gets rewarded with more work for working so hard

Okay hate on capitalism, fair enough
But equating it to literal slavery like we've had in the past (and still have in some parts of the world) seems problematic to me
- "Experience demonstrates that there may be a slavery of wages only a little less galling and crushing in its effects than chattel slavery, and that this slavery of wages must go down with the other."
  — Frederick Douglass
  
  I suspect that most other actual slaves would not entirely agree with that sentiment
- we’ve had in the past
  we definitely still have slavery in America. Like, in America. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of companies that outsource their slavery to other countries and then ship the product here so we can pretend it's not made by slaves, but plenty of companies skip the middle man and just use slaves here
- The whip makes the joke that they are slaves but it's believed it was mostly wage earners build the pyramids. The joke still stands though. I mean it's a fucking mausoleum. Wasting societies resources for a vanity project. The irony of his statement holds either way, as a wage laborer or a slave.
- What literal slavery? The pyramids weren’t built with slave labor.
  
  There's a dude with a whip in the picture, so it seems like the artist believes it was slave labor
  
  Slavery is the ownership of a person as property, especially in regards to their labor.
  Having 100% exclusive rights over the fruits of a person's labor, so, a job.
  Slavery typically involves compulsory work with the slave's location of work and residence dictated by the party that holds them in bondage.
  Ever applied for a mortgage?
- Never mind the foreign interest campaigns to get Americans to be less productive

Interestingly, I think the current consensus is that the workers who built the pyramids were not slaves, but rather ‘volunteers’ or ‘citizens’ who worked during the farming off-season. The ancient Egyptians didn’t use coins at this point, but the workers seem to have been housed in a kind of workers settlement near the site and paid in beer, bread, and grain.
Capitalism can suck my famous balls however

I'm somewhere between the whipper and the whipee.

Average feudalist enjoyer

What's going on with the rope on the front of the stone block? It looks like it's going to the taskmaster's hand, but he's standing behind the block, so that makes no sense...
- The artist drew this in like five minutes.
- The rope isn't taut.
- Ai generated?

Someone do something about political memes on the general meme communities please
- You want more of them?
- Since this community's rules don't prohibit political memes, maybe you should start an apolitical meme community?
- Or at least require a decent font.

The communist version of this meme has someone with a whip and sword standing behind them and telling them to work for the benefit of the people or die
- This is called projection, especially since capitalism itself was built with ongoing slavery and genocide. The only people who should fear communists are the bourgeoisie and their running dogs.
  
  And farmers who own their lands, and workers who want unions independent of the state, and political dissidents, and a thousand other groups
  
  I swear any comment that has any little thing to do with capitalism causes every hexbear user to crawl out of the walls seething with rage.
- No everyone. You see capitalism is when good thing, and communism is when bad thing.
- Look at these poor North Koreans suffering under Communism
- At best European nations are social liberal democracies. No European country is a socialist nation.
  
  China is a socialist democracy too. Dont leave them out.
- So thered be no joke and they'd be forced to do good? Sounds like an improvement
- You know I'm a communist, and I'd actually wager we would agree on your stance here if you chose better words. What you're actually advocating against is state capitalism, and we both agree it's a horrific and unjust system.
  Something I've noticed about "anti-communists" is they absolutely love taking the USSR, CCP, and DPRK at their word for what they are. When they describe themselves as communist/socialist, you take it as an undeniable fact.
  Do you think the DPRK is a democratic republic? It's in the name. Of course you don't, because it'd be ridiculous to let an authoritarian regime change the definitions of words to mean whatever they want it to mean :)
  
  How are you a communist?
  
  There's two paths to talking with a communist. Either they're a tankie and start singing the praises of the USSR and PRC and all sorts of totalitarian hellholes, or they start talking about hypothetical economic systems and states which haven't been shown to be practically achievable. I don't say this to be a dick, man. I much prefer the utopian idealist communists over those who cheer when political dissidents are machine gunned for wanting democracy. But it still doesn't make libertarian communism a workable system, whether it's anarchic communism or democratic socialism or some other form of stateless society.
  So, I am happy to be civil with you, I just fundamentally disagree about whether attempting to achieve those ideals would end well. In my opinion, it would have one of three results - anarchy and a breakdown of the economy, imposition of totalitarian rule in reaction to groups of people who don't want to give up their private property rights, or reversion to another form of economic structure, like capitalism.
- That sounds pretty statist. How do you square that with the fact communism is stateless?
  
  Anarchic communism is an incoherent and silly an ideology as anarcho-capitalism. It's impossible to argue against someone who believes in the economic policy equivalent of believing the world can run on kittens and rainbows.

this is racist against black people
- Wut?
  The pyramid builders weren't even slaves ya dumbass

Not everyone in capitalism is a winner, and that's ok. The big advantage is that the losers are usually offered the opportunity to work and make a living.
The alternative is crossing your fingers and hoping the government (or whatever body is responsible for distributing pay) gives you what you need. If they don't, tough luck, there's nothing you can do about it.
- As opposed to under capitalism where you have to cross your fingers and hoping that one of those winners will offer you a job with living wage, while another doesn't charge you an arm and leg for housing.
  
  If none of the winners offer you a job, make your own, or acquire some marketable skill. You have options and opportunities.
  There aren't as many options for housing as I'd like honestly. I'd prefer less regulation to allow for lower quality, cheaper housing. As it stands though, you still have options and the ability to improve your living conditions.
- The problem is that the biggest "winners" in this case are almost exclusively the people willing to go the furthest to put profits ahead of people, which in a better system would never be incentivized.
  
  Capitalism is the worst economic system, except for all others which have been tried
  
  That leads to a beauty of capitalism though. People prioritize profit, yes, but with competition, the way to make a profit is to be appealing to people. You make a profit by providing the best good or service at the best price. This means that the people who have the goal of profits also have the goal of pleasing their customers.
  There's a quote from somewhere that goes something like this "capitalism takes the most ambitious, selfish, and capable people and forces them to stay up at night thinking about what everyone else wants".
- There are quite a number of other alternatives. Your reduction of this issue shows that you are not only a capitalist whore but also very ignorant.
  
  I wasn't aware there are ao many other options? Could you reference some?
  I guess you could grow and make everything yourself, buy that doesn't seem like an economic system.
  I'm actually not sure how pay was distributed in feudalism, so that could theoretically be another way, but I doubt it is.
  Something like UBI would be the latter option.
  Maybe if you had capitalism at a macro level, but communism at a micro level. Each town internally worked like communism, but interacted with others in a capitalist fashion. But even there, there will be people in the town distributing pay (or goods and services directly) without you having control over it. You might be able to be especially charismatic, or threaten a revolt, but I don't think those are things people can typically do.
- This comment is fkn stoopid. Seriously. Look at the logic