American Democrats try not to support a fascist agenda challenge (impossible)
American Democrats try not to support a fascist agenda challenge (impossible)
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/11258523
American Democrats try not to support a fascist agenda challenge (impossible)
I wish I had a cookie for every time a Democrat told me the concentration camps are good ackshually
Fuck your border and your president
Fuck off with this shit, it encourages people to let fascism slide in unchecked
Any condemnation of their behavior needs to be nuanced.
Do I approve of what US democrat leadership is doing? Absolutely the fuck not, fuck them for not pulling out from Israel.
Am I going to stop supporting them? Absolutely the fuck not, because I know it'll be worse if they lose. So much worse. Worse as in I literally do not know anymore how regressive and hateful the right wing can get because it's already so much worse than I ever expected possible.
The two party system makes it hard to have any nuance tho
American liberals are fascists. We get it. Hilarious. If this is your version of left unity, you might consider a rethink.
Left unity doesn't include right wing ideologies like liberalism. See Rule 3.
The current split isn't dividing the left. It's defining it.
they enable it en masse, even if they are not fascists themselves. They do not question the status quo and are the "good cop" to the rep "bad cop"
also in what world are liberals and socdems considered socialists?
I rather imagine socdems consider themselves socialists, probably not liberals though. But we weren't having that discussion, so I guess you were just bringing attention to your community rules in a passive aggressive sort of way? Fair enough I guess.
I've just noticed things getting way too tribal lately and the communist/socialist left seems hell bent on fighting with the liberals instead of the conservatives. Personally, I think it's counterproductive to dunk on the liberals when there's so many actual fascists around, and it's getting a bit tiring. Have they as a party moved too far to the right? Definitely. Would it be a step in the right direction if people like Bernie Sanders got a chance to make a difference? Definitely. Would it be far enough? Almost certainly not, but you know, this is the US we're talking about, they're never going to go fully socialist. You've got to have some level of pragmatism if you want to get any movement back to the left.
If someone is socially progressive and anti-authoritarian, then I don't need to know much else about their politics, I'll make the assumption they are probably a decent person. I really don't care if someone labels themselves a socialist, a liberal or an anarchist, or any of the dozens of atomistic political groupings on the left, or if they don't give a shit about politics. If they are trying to improve the current state of society in whatever way they are able, then they really don't deserve to get dunked on. It's mean spirited and counterproductive and there's too much hate going around.
I mean, what's your end goal with this strategy of hating on the not-quite-left-enough? I genuinely don't understand it.
Such disingenuous horse shit.
Fuck immigration, I guess. Let's just leave the doors wide open and allow free access to public services, housing, medical, whatever with no accounting.
Any effort at bookkeeping or immigration control is apparently inhumane. You want these people to stand in line and fill out paperwork? You may as well be throwing them in cages yourself.
What's disingenuous bullshit is this assertion that there's an illegal check in station where every undocumented person who crosses, no matter where, gets assigned a standard loadout of an apartment, EBT and Medicaid card, free lifetime bus card, and welfare check.
The only people asserting this are clearly pressing a narrative. By repeating it, you've amplified their noise.
Instead, when you see it, just tell them to shut the fuck up. Don't argue or discuss our all for proof, because they are clearly not arguing in good faith. Just "shut the fuck up".
Fuck immigration, I guess. Let’s just leave the doors wide open and allow free access to public services, housing, medical, whatever with no accounting.
Yes. You know that thing in the song about rights being privilege extended unless enjoyed by one and all.
The main reason your borders exist is to protect colonial privilege and capital