The way I usually describe it as an asexual guy is that there's basically noone I find hot. That doesn't mean they're the opposite. It just like a sense I lack or a color I can't see. I just don't feel sexual attraction. But I do still like people based on other types of attraction and sex is still fun. For me platonic attraction is the main criteria for sexual partners. It's just a fun activity between close friends like watching a movie or playing a board game.
That's not to say that there aren't asexual people who don't like sex because those people do exist, but how much a person likes sex is on the sex repulsion to sex favorable axis and is only tangentally related to asexuality.
Sexuality in general is best seen as a spectrum, and that even applies to asexuality. I've met folks who only find sexual attraction in people they are intimately familiar with (can't whack the nasty with any random people, they gotta trust and be comfortable and familiar with a partner). Others have a complete lack of sexual interest and arousal. I, myself, do have an active libido, but no actual interest in sex itself thanks to bad events in my past.
BDSM != sex, even if the two are heavily connected in a lot of people's minds. I've played with both tops and bottoms that were ace/het/LGBT, and there was not anything sexual there. Hell, one of my fave experiences was bottoming for a lesbian top who enjoyed beating on dudes.
BDSM is not inherently sexual, even if there can be a lot of sexuality involved.
BDSM is much less about sex and much more about the power dynamic. Kinks are, by definition, having sexual arousal from non genital things. So while asexuals might not be interested in fuckin or getting fucked, other things might cause arousal.
i have a couple of ace friends into BDSM, i myself am somewhere on the ace spectrum. And i can tell you that BDSM can be enjoyed without sex or pain, power dynamics is where the best sauce is at
She still is? Being in to link has nothing to do with being ace. She may not have sexual desire or want sexual contact (which are VERY different things) is entirely seperate from the dynamics of a kink relationship.
Anon probably isn't being malicious, but is definitely uniformed.
Claiming you are someone who doesnt feel sexual attraction and then asking someone to perform fetish activities is actually a very confusing thing for most people. He would be uninformed because its a very obscure situation to be in in the real world.
Yeah, as a kinky asexual myself, it seems like she hasn't been very open in communicating her relationship to kink. Especially when your partner is allosexual, it's so important to explain why you like to participate in kinky activities as an asexual and where your boundaries begin and end.
For allosexual people, sex and kinks have a venn diagram that's basically a circle, and failing to communicate the extent of your interest in kinks as an asexual is just setting the entire relationship up to fail because you're inevitably going to have mismatching expectations from kink play unless you make sure you're both on the same page before you start.
His confusion is completely understandable, as is her identity as a kinky asexual. They just need to talk to each other.
Maybe she isn't explaining very well or maybe he is not believing what she says. At any rate, there is definitely communication problems here that need to be worked out ASAP if this relationship has any hope.
He would be uninformed because its a very obscure situation to be in in the real world.
I'll admit to being bias, but I have lots of ace friends. Granted I am already part of the queer community and I take your larger point that allo people would have trouble understanding this, but we are less obscure than you might think. There is a lot of shame and stigma around saying "I don't want to have sex", most people take it as an invitation to "fix you".To speak nothing of the boundary trouble allo/ace relationships have. I don't know you, but I'd bet hard cash money that someone in your life is shades of ace.
Why? I honestly don't get it. I want my partner to be my best friend, but I don't think about my other friends sexually even if I do love them like family.
I don't want kids so I don't think about partners in that respect. I do want them to be my last relationship though.
Edit: I'll leave it, but I just continued to read the comments and found an answer I understand and agree with. I just never put enough thought into it I suppose.
I mean, I’m asexual and intensely sex-repulsed, and my wife is asexual too, and I am madly in love with her even after being married for eight years.
It’s romance and friendship; she’s my best friend and wife. I’ll kiss her, hold her hand, rub her back and feet, buy snacks for her, loads of stuff I wouldn’t do with my friends.
I mean, I bought a house with her. I wouldn’t do that with just anybody.
No. Imagine two Catholics are dating and don't want to have sex before marriage - are they just friends? There's a lot more to romance than just sex, and I feel sorry for the partner of anyone who doesn't realise this
Like it or not, sexual compatibility and intimacy is very important to a lot of people, and a lot of partners. There is more to a romantic relationship than sex, this is very true. However, downplaying the importance of a key component of a love language does no one any favors.