‘Orphaned by decree’: Italy’s same-sex parents react to losing their rights
‘Orphaned by decree’: Italy’s same-sex parents react to losing their rights
Rightwing PM Giorgia Meloni has demanded councils register only biological parents on birth certificates, leaving partners in legal limbo
Rightwing PM Giorgia Meloni has demanded councils register only biological parents on birth certificates, leaving partners in legal limbo
But everyone swore that we were over reacting when we called her Fascist.
??????How could anyone be overreacting? Isn't her only claim to fame her relationship to a fascist?
It would be one thing if it's incidental, but that's always seemed one of her primary selling points.
The self proclamed "queen of the traditional family", almost actual quote
Her grandfather would be ... laying perfectly still in his grave.
The people who tell you that you're overreacting are usually just scared to admit what's happening to themselves.
The fuck is going on over there Italy? I know the USA's a dumpster fire but are you guys like ... trying to be the European equivalent of Mississippi?
They elected a fascist.
We have a massively growing right wing due to people finding little answers from the center-right. Left wing is a minority, and the only time a major center-left party went to power it was a split power with a right wing party that months later voluntarily sabotaged its own position of power just so the center-left party was not in power anymore. We went into technical government, during COVID.
What the people want to hear is increased wages, lower gas prices and less taxes. Yet, they vote "the queen of the traditional family" (almost actual quote) and now we have a prime minister that has cut welfare for the unemployed and reverting rights. But hey, they want to implement minimum wage I guess.
Still, you can't get away with cutting welfare like that. We have places like Naples almost rioting.
Connationals, I beg you, go vote. Don't let this happen so often...
Voting is NOT the way out of the situation that we’re in. You should still vote but it’s critical to understand that the absolute best that voting can achieve is the lesser evil.
If we want a solution that is actually good, we need to a fundamental change in the structure of society that can only happen outside of traditional electoral politics.
The structure fundamentally responsible for our problems - unequal distribution of resources and labour and the concentration of wealth into the hands of a very, very small minority (100 individuals have more wealth than an entire continent of ~1,460,000,000 people) - is the same one which completely dominates the outcome of elections.
Money decides who can run a campaign, buy support, pay for smear campaigns, control the media narrative, dominate the conversation by astroturfing social media, etc. etc. The system is so fundamentally controlled by money that there is absolutely no way to beat it using the rules of that very same system.
We need to build alternative systems that work outside of capitalism, for example, mutual aid (helping/supporting someone in return for their help/support in future), establishing co-operatives for food, housing, etc. to meet our needs, and establishing networks of support built on trust, mutual respect, and solidarity. Then we can withdraw our labour from capitalism entirely, causing it to collapse, and form the structure of a new society in the shell of the old.
Only by building an alternative to the system, can we truly make things better.
Only by knowing that voting can’t build that alternative, we realise that means we need to take action beyond voting.
Right!? I don't get it. Why aren't we so far beyond this by now? This was shit that should have been solved ages ago yet here we are having the same goddamn discussions decade after decade. Let's just collectively grow the fuck up already. I just don't get it. I just don't. Fuck these people.
Didn't you know? It's the 20s all over again. Musolini came into power in 1922. Welcome to the 100 year backslide.
Then let's better skip the 30s and 40s...
They elected a fascist party and leader.
All countries are a few steps away from this type of shit. Nation states may have been a good departure from monarchies but have very much proven to be trash; the "cultures" and "ethnicities", etc. they proclaim to protect seem very much to be bullshit money-making schemes at best. A serious shift away from vertical economic and social hierarchies is the only solution. But deprogramming the world is not going to be easy.
Indeed! Where and when do we meet?
This probably makes a cadre of old ladies happy but how does it help the children?
Seems unusually crude.
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Across the world, the right wing authoritarian cry of "For the children!" has never, once, been anything but a Trojan horse to pursue injurious laws against people the authoritarians decry as "undesirable"
want an answer?
religion
Awful shit. Will this affect all adoptees or just those chosen by the fascist administration?
Your understanding is generally inaccurate. (or at least seemed to)
A less spoken yet big topic in Italy is the "uterus for rent" ("utero in affitto"). While most media talks about the woman role, it actually goes both ways.
The explanation under the following spoiler is potentially NSFW, yet I will try to write it in the least sensitive way possible
This is an illegal practice in Italy.
It consists in a person paying another person from the opposite sex so a child can be born between the two, but raised by only the payer. Used in the case where the actual couple cannot make a child on their own (so, in the case of same-sex unions or general infertility). The person who got payed would then disappear.
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The block of the birth certificates is going against this practice.
I see the block of the birth certificates as being ostensibly in support of the prohibition of this practice, but I can also very well see the underlying intent as being anti- same-sex-parenting.
Further, I don't understand why the practice should be prohibited in the first place.
So I disagree with it, but on the other hand I also disagree with it. Am just a filthy foreigner though so other than this comment I'll keep it to myself.
Ah, the classic "make a minority responsible for our problems" technique.
Splitting up completely functional families. Barbarians. Could this be appealed in the EU courts? Is political asylum in another country possible?
This is the best summary I could come up with:
But in recent months – after Italy’s rightwing government began cracking down on the listing of same-sex parents on birth certificates – the life they have forged together has been thrust into uncertainty.
Following the birth of their children, she and Pardi spent years battling for legal recognition, butting up constantly against the absence of a national law setting out parental rights for same-sex couples.
What was taking place in Milan was a “direct breach of children’s rights” set out by the UN, MEPs noted in an amendment to a 2022 report, and “part of a broader attack against the LGBTQI+ community in Italy”.
The crackdown on same-sex parents has cast a spotlight on Italy’s ranking among the worst countries in western Europe when it comes to LGBTQ+ rights and added to fears that this meagre standing could be eroded under Meloni’s government.
“This ban is one of the most concrete manifestations of the fury that the rightwing majority is unleashing against LGBTI people,” Gabriele Piazzoni from Arcigay, Italy’s largest LGBTQ+ rights group, told media earlier this year.
Italy legalised same-sex civil unions in 2016 but stopped short of allowing gay couples the right to adopt amid opposition from rightwing parties and the Catholic church.
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What a shithole. Italy is an oligopolistic kleptocracy run by a dictator with a psychological complex. Someone should regime change them, probably by sanctioning the country and starving the people who deserve it because they haven't overthrown their fascist leaders yet (probably because they are fascists themselves).
Did I touch all the Russophobic and Sinophobic talking points?
You got me in the first half not gonna lie.
Did I touch all the Russophobic and Sinophobic talking points?
You missed "asiatic hordes" and dogwhistles for it.
It's all thanks to Ukrainian Nazi influence causing this radical shift in Europe but no one wants to say it out loud
You couldn't be more wrong, and that's why no one is saying it.
https://forward.com/news/555676/azov-brigade-ukraine-nazi-extremism-jewish-criticism/
Yeah, I'm sure none of those people are Nazis amirite?
The fuck has Ukraine got to do with anything?
Those are 2 different countries with the only similarities being on the European continent and having fascists groups.
I swear, some Americans really don't understand how borders work...
