My 5 year old gaming laptop finally needs to be replaced. I need a new laptop for programming and light gaming.
I no longer game on a laptop but a desktop. Though being able to play even outside would be nice so the laptop should be able to play at least Team Fortress 2.
I'll be installing a Linux distro on it.
My budget is around 800-1000€.
The screen should be 14 or 15 inches.
The battery should last at least 6 hours while not doing anything heavy as video editing or gaming.
Make sure you get a laptop with a modern Ryzen processor since the battery life (and performance on battery) is often a lot better than Intel. There are a lot out there that fit the bill like Lenovo's yoga/ideapad lineup. Just be weary of two things:
Some 14" laptops may have soldered RAM or SSDs making them impossible to upgrade
Don't go off of processor names, they're often pretty misleading. For example a Ryzen 7 7730U is significantly worse than a Ryzen 7 7840U.
Not many suggestions seem to be forthcoming and the laptops I have are outside of your budget or bought at a time when medium range laptops were cheaper. Your budget is unfortunately below what the linux laptop vendors I know ship. So, to narrow down your parameters:
Go for AMD --> less to no issues with Linux
will most likely be an "APU" (CPU with integrated graphics) which are OK-ish for gaming --> check https://www.notebookcheck.net/ for the APU you find and ensure your game or an equivalent can be played with it
16GB is nearly too little (depending on what you do) so try to get 32GB
The Framework 13 laptop is around 1200€ , New ThinkPads are over your budget by a lot, except for the ThinkPad L14 AMD which is just outside your budget, but would probably fit your requirements
You've mentioned a few times that a new framework is firmly out of budget.
Might still be worth keeping an eye out though. They had a sale going a while ago for some units that were pulled for QA. If minor defects don't bother you it's possible to get a framework 13 for <1000€ if you're patient and a bit lucky.
The right choice is a Framework laptop. But if not that one, then a cheaper Framework laptop.
I use an Acer Spin 5, and I really like it, but my next laptop is definitely going to be a Framework. The fact that I can never upgrade my Acer’s CPU is just sad. Even if the screen, keyboard, trackpad, etc, all work great, eventually it’ll just be ewaste.
At least one option I found in that price range on Amazon (US, not sure about EU)
Discrete AMD GPUs in laptops are a very niche market, and there aren’t too many to be found. The RX6550m listed here is not the bottom of AMD’s barrel, but it’s no powerhouse. I’m sure it would run anything that isn’t too demanding, TF2 included.
I'm in pretty much the same boat. My past 2 laptops have been dell inspirons with a touchscreen. I use the touch screen for game programming to make sure touch events work. The one I got was $500, but probably should have gone a bit higher.
It has a i5 processor 16gb ram, 1 tb ssd. It does indeed run tf2, guild wars 2, and other not graphically intensive games. I'm satisfied and it does work well, but below are some of the negatives of my new laptop vs my old.
It's missing key backlights, a fingerprint to unlock, and the bodyvis much more plastic and feels not as secure as my wife's lenovo.
Be sure to check out pics for keyboard arrangement. My new laptop has a numberpad..which is nice, but the arrow keys got shrunk which is not nice for programming.
Be sure to check where the trackpad is. Centralized is better. My new one is more to the left and my wrist hits it when playing tf2 and I do occasionally get some movement from my wrist in game, but not much.
Be sure to check where the trackpad is. Centralized is better. My new one is more to the left and my wrist hits it when playing tf2 and I do occasionally get some movement from my wrist in game, but not much.
There should be an option in your OS to disable the trackpad while using the keyboard. My laptop also has a trackpad to the left and I often have my hand over it when playing but never had this issue.
If youre up for it, you could stream off of your home desktop with Sunshine and use the laptop just as a light-weight client. Then the requirements for the laptop are a lot less and could potentially play even better games.
I played dota on my old laptop at a friends house while it actually streamed from my home desktop and it worked fine. I dont remember if you need a domain or static IP or anything like that, which may be a barrier. Or if upload speeds just wont allow it
He could even keep his current laptop with this arrangement. Less e-waste. (unless it's already dead, but for programming I still use a 12 year old vaio that got a second life when ditching windows)
Laptops that businesses used are pretty good value for the quality. My SO gets Latitude 5590s from eBay that are in near pristine condition and are workhorses for everything he does. They work great with Linux too.