Who gives a shit. I'm so sick of this race to the bottom of the thinnest and the lightest and whatever the fuck appletard trendy bullshit. I want my six pound, two inch thick, 7-row keyboard chonker with a dozen status lights, 20 different ports, and more maintenence panels than the fucking space shuttle.
ThinkPads were once a utilitarian utopia. Lenovo stole that from us and I will never forgive them.
Gotta agree with this. I have a big workstation machine at home for work, and a thin & light laptop that does the bare minimum that I use for travel. It's 2 lbs but still has a dedicated graphics card and good enough to do light CAD work. Everything has a practical purpose, it just depends on your specific needs.
Doesn't mean they can't offer both, and there's no reason they can't have status lights, 7-row keyboards, and reasonable port offerings (even if it's mostly a bunch of USB C ports, which can service just about anything) in a smaller package, it's that they're cheap, lazy fucks selling trends instead of utility.
To be fair, even Apple is done with this stuff. Now that Ive is gone, and they seem to be listening to customers, they’re actually putting reasonable I/O on laptops again.
Same here (W520). I have maxed out everything. 32GB RAM, two SSDs, two external monitors. I will continue using this thing and make it the ThinkPad of Theseus.
Ever since the scandal where they changed the root certificate to enable inserting ads into Https - and worse still, IIRC made them the same (?) meaning anyone who figured it out could intercept any other affected-laptop-user's Https - I've felt some caution about Lenovo laptops.
8 years seems a short time to go, "eh, I guess they won't do it again"
So does 18 years, for that matter, but I suppose more people have changed at the company in that time. I haven't heard about the CD rootkit scandal; what was that?!
I used to work at Lenovo's fulfillment center through a temp company. The organization of the place (or lack thereof) is a complete clusterfuck. At the time I worked there, something like 5 to 10% of their inventory was "lost", as in, it was somewhere in the building, but no one could find it since it's location is no longer in the system.
Well damn, thanks for highlighting this. Didn't even know they're still making stuff, and Fujitsu has the cheaper FMV MH for under US$1k running Ryzen CPUs too!
I had a Flex 14 which had a broken keyboard. Sent it for repairs and it came back with the same issue happening a minute after I turned it on. Had a bunch of friends who got a Lenovo gaming laptop that were offered at a deal with our school (was a Y-something I can't recall). All of them ended up with strange green bands on their screens within 2 years. The whole superfish fiasco basically cemented that they're not a company I would buy anything from ever again.
I'm currently using a Asus Zephyrus G14 and it's been practically a flawless experience.
I have a Lenovo Idea Pad 3. It runs linux mint on it perfectly fine and I can run mid tier games on it. It’s great for a portable play experience or work laptop.
Thinkpads always seem to have garbage screens. It felt like they maxed out at 1340x768 res for a long time and even when I last looked a year or two ago, 1080p seemed like the best you can get in most cases.
As you're earning downvotes, let me throw in a +1 here (I also thought Thinkpads are the goat, till I got one):
I have a Thinkpad T16 Gen 1 (Price around $3000 based on its configuration, like 48 GB RAM) at work and it’s a piece of shit.
For example they fucked up their BIOS, so it sometimes needed 2 minutes to boot. Lenovo admitted they have an issue there… after I messed with some BIOS settings I got it down to 30 seconds at least (but it’s still not great). It also has heat issues and immediately clocks down the Intel 6 core CPU if you do anything demanding (like compiling). And it has a weird tick with the fans, where it sometimes out of nowhere spins the fans up from 0 to 100 for just a second or so. Haven’t been able to fix that one yet.
Overall it’s an okay laptop, but for the price it sucks. The whole company now thinks about switching away from Lenovo after we had other troubles (like the charging port not working for a colleague).
I have a yoga slim pro something or other (amd) that's been running fine for a bit over a year. It runs Linux, but it's probably ok under windows as well.