Difference:
Liberal - if you appear racist, etc, I will say so.
Conservative - if you disagree with my worldview, I will harass you, pass laws that force you to live like I think you should, dictate what you can do with your body, how you will raise your kids, and what books will be in the schools that all of our tax dollars pay for.
"Waaaaah, liberals won't tolerate intolerance! 😭"
I say this as a left-leaning person, I think Liberals do have a tendency to tear anybody down at the slightest whiff of even potential unintended non-political correctness. “Oh, you misused the terms ‘sex’ and ‘gender’ in the point you were trying to make?” or “You’re attempting to say anything mildly critical about women or minorities?” or even just people having legitimate misunderstandings about issues will cause them to get accused of some flavor of -ism. Granted, Conservatives seem to go out of their way to be blatantly ignorant fucktards, but I think even fellow Liberals and middle-of-the-roaders aren’t spared from this treatment.
This tbh. The criticism of how the left behaves in aggregate is probably valid.
It's one of the reasons the left is less politically successful, this kind of excessive 'call-out' behaviour tends to cause groups to endlessly divide and fight one another (at least it's consistent)
The right on the other hand tends to form ranks, far more hypocritical but better for mobilising large groups of people behind a common cause.
It's one of the reasons the left is less politically successful, this kind of excessive 'call-out' behaviour tends to cause groups to endlessly divide and fight one another (at least it's consistent)
I'm glad at least some people understand this. I grew up in a small farming community in Middle America. I was as left as they come, in my town. Always fought (in the literal sense) racism, bullying, sexism, saw no problem with people doing whatever they wanted to do and being who they wanted to be, this was in the late 90s and early 2000s. None of my opinions aligned with the majority of my peers or my family, and when young was called satanic for being pro-choice, anti-controlling people, pro-do whatever makes you happy as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. I only had a few friends, all outcasts. Today they're all happily out of the closet. Edit: 1 is straight, maybe, has only ever had 1 girlfriend.
Now as an adult living in the biggest blue city in a red state I have found myself becoming more conservative in some ways, having more conservative friends. In large part due to the unwillingness of many to discuss serious issues without having a falling out over some relatively minor difference of opinion in the grand scheme of things, like not all Republicans being evil racist rednecks who just want to watch the world burn. Most of my family and many good-hearted associates voted Republican in 2016 because it's what was on the ticket.
I used to proudly call myself a liberal but wouldn't dare anymore. I'm sure someone will not read the whole comment and swing in here to tell me that's good, that I'm just a Republican at heart and there must be a deeper reason for this, and to not let the door hit myself on the way out -- amplifying my point.
Whatever happened to the Popular Front of Judea?
I really don't understand what Liberal means in an American context. I'm a certified anarchist myself, hang out with left leaning folks from all walks of life, some very moderate, some more radical than I am and I never heard these types of comments and attacks. I sincerely don't get it. Is it some kind of Twitter trend I'm too lemming to understand? Are America and Europe so different? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for calling out racists and sexists, but I don't think I've seen those terms being applied to people for frivolous or far fetched reasons.
When Americans say liberal they're talking mainly about social issues like support of LGBT+ rights, abortion, etc. They're also usually for social economic programs, although this can encompass a broad range of issues with varying amounts of support, like universal basic income, more safety nets for low income people, higher taxes on the rich, universal or easier access to health care, etc.
OMG people being sensitive about defending marginalized people. Can't we just uphold the status quo for the sake of the majority?
There it is...
This really started with knocking down a strawman and took a hard right into a weird circlejerk at the end there
Right wingers are always in search of that cookie
I don't see anything wrong with the list at the bottom. That seems to check a lot of accurate boxes.
The phrase "name-calling" can be a tell, when what people are upset about is having their behavior accurately labeled.
Basically every time you see someone whining about being called a racist, you can check their previous comments and they are indeed overtly racist.
The core of conservatism is that saying so is all there is.
how about a slice of Persecution Complex with your peach cobbler
Is that a picture of kenneth copeland?
To a narcissist, everything is a mirror.
To be fair, my inlaws like to bring up "facts" they saw reading "creditable" sources. I always love to call into question the accuracy of the information, especially when it refers to demographics as "The Blacks" or (insert minority group) folk.
Hey! What's wrong with NASCAR?? 🧢🍻
Ya know we should take NASCAR back. Cars that go vroom are cool and mean people shouldn't get them.
NASCAR. AINT THEM THOSE ALPHABET PEOPLE? 😅
Capitalism is a Moloch that demands sacrifice and it's alienation is killing us
-Dale Earnhardt sr.
It's not particularly interesting despite the physical and technical demands asked of by the drivers? Road courses are only marginally more interesting.
As an F1 fan, I absolutely love NASCAR road courses! They're always super interesting, and it's pretty impressive the engineers can package for them and how the drivers handle getting those big boys around turns.
Drive in circle = boring
If the only reason people watch it is to see the drivers fail, then the sport isn't interesting.
Compare it to something like freestyle motocross. I really don't want them to fail that jump. And it still is entertaining even if nobody crashes.
Ha...My hard left friends (and wife) are not fans of me not always agreeing with their perspectives.
This is actually an accurate portrayal of many people who call themselves 'tolerant' and left I've found on the internet unfortunately. Too many people only tolerate people with the same opinions as them, and think free speech should only apply to those with their own views.
I've heard of it previously.
Yep. Tribalism is present and the "other" is always immoral, evil and deranged. I cite this as a reason why so many elections are lost. An echochamber that powers itself, when confronted / asked about policies going "I don't need to explain this is common sense"
Well yeah, i don't tolerate racist, if that makes me intolerant, so be it.
Having a conversation about whether or not people have a right to exist is already me tolerating someone I hate.
I enjoy looking at things from different points of view. It helps me understand the big picture, and know thy enemy.
From a liberal perspective this is obviously a statement on the conservative movement to deny the LGBT movement.
From a conservative perspective this is obviously a statement on the liberal movement to deny children's right to life.
Whether you post this in a left-leaning echo chamber or a right-leaning echo chamber, it will generate the appropriate echo chamber response.
Nuance generating black & white thinking, if you will.
"with the same opinions as them"
This is hilarious. No it's with the opinion that we should all treat each other well.
Why should anyone treat u well if u prove you're a shit person who treats others badly?
I'm guessing your "differing opinion" Is something like "blacks cause most of the crime" or "globalists"
Ya know we should take NASCAR back. Cars that go vroom are cool and mean people shouldn't get them.
You're a*
"I'm trying to make society more tolerant by accepting others even if you don't agree with them."
"Oh yea, then why are you against white supremacists and neo nazis? What a hypocrit! Stupid libtards lol"
Loool, they're pretty right on this one. Bring up nuance and suddenly you're not an ally anymore.
You see it anytime you criticize Biden from a democrat perspective.
I think a lot of that is over-correction due to trolls. Because “both sides are the same” is a common trolling tactic to discourage democrat votes. So many democrats will assume by default that criticisms about Biden (even when true) will eventually lead to “both sides” trolling. So they just automatically skip straight to step 5 of the argument and start calling you a troll.
Excuse me, but my opinion matters more than yours.
QAA just released a podcast interviewing an author who talked about how the left kills itself with infighting. Would recommend. We need to come together.
Isaid this above but i think it's worth repeating, Having a conversation about whether or not people have a right to exist is already me tolerating someone I hate.
Solidarity forever 🎸
