Does Reddit shadowban mentions of Lemmy?
Does Reddit shadowban mentions of Lemmy?
In the months since I deleted my Reddit accounts and joined Lemmy, the lack of user base growth has made it clear that we need some users to stay on Reddit as a means of shepherding more users over on an ongoing basis. Otherwise, Reddit simply got what it wanted: less users who make a fuss about how it manages its platform without losing users en-masse.
In doing so, however, does Reddit shadowban posts that mention or promote Lemmy? Googling mentions of Lemmy on Reddit mostly brings up posts from around the time of the blackout, suggesting that mentions of it since then have been suppressed. Before I return to Reddit to promote Lemmy, does anyone know for certain one way or the other?
I think the reality is that no one on Reddit gives a shit about Lemmy. I used to see if my comments were being deleted by a mod by opening the permalink in a private browser window. I don't know if admin removal has a more complicated way of masking it or not.
I think the reality is that no one on Reddit gives a shit about Lemmy
I wouldn't be so sure:
Not enough users left Reddit after the blackout to either make a difference there or establish communities on Lemmy that are big enough to encourage people on the fence to switch over. To turn Lemmy into a viable alternative, we need to convince more Redditors to switch over by mentioning Lemmy in the right threads, making sure to explain features of Lemmy in terms of Reddit analogs to avoid the usual complaints of Lemmy being difficult to understand. Most people won't care, but the ones that do will be vital in bringing the userbase to the point where people will want to join Lemmy due to it having active communities rather than it just not being Reddit.
a viable alternative
It's already a viable alternative. I can tell because I'm only here and not there anymore and lack nothing
we need to convince more Redditors to switch over by mentioning Lemmy in the right threads
This is just the worst idea. First off, it would require me to have a reddit account, which I nuked. Second, it'd require me to go to reddit and there's no more ingress points that won't rape my eyes. And finally, I'm not using my time and energy proselytizing just to accelerate another tragedy of the commons.
switch over by mentioning Lemmy in the right threads, making sure to explain features of Lemmy in terms of Reddit analogs to avoid the usual complaints of Lemmy being difficult to understand.
I feel like we are very close to this inflection point where all the pieces are in place to make mass migration completely transparent. What is missing:
- Integrate the "Login with Reddit" functionality that I implemented for Fediverser (and available on alien.top) directly into Voyager.
- Get more instances to connect to fediverser.network, so that we can onboard redditors into other instances besides alien.top
- Promote Voyager on /r/apolloapp.
They don't shadowban, but they'll auto-remove comments mentioning it. I posted the Join Lemmy link in a comment a while back, and that comment was immediately updated to [removed by reddit].
This could be a automod setting that community admins can add. I've mentionned lemmy and didn't get remived comments, I might try again
"Removed by Reddit" implies admin action though.
I've tested this on r/lemmy, and it still got removed.
At most they suppress them, no shadowbanning. There's a whole lemmy subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/Lemmy/ and it gets mentioned on r/RedditAlternatives all the time
Probably not. But from their POV it's at least a competitor, albeit an insignificant one, and pushing too hard to "let people know" is... pretty much spam. They're used to handling spam and have mechanisms in place (fewer now, though. snort.)
I know for a fact some mods remove and ban for it, but I've been on reddit a long time and I remember seeing mods ban people over linking similar subs.
No shadow ban, but auto-removal of the posts
They definitely used to delete links to popular Lemmy instances. I posted a few as a test one time and found the comment to be shadow deleted. It looked like it existed to me, but if I logged out, I couldn't see it. I wasn't banned, though. Idk if this is still happening.
Not reddit as a whole, it is individual moderators with the automod. My small community has a pinned lemmy link that is visible and the posts to the sub are restricted.
I cant say for sure but it would make sense that they did a regex or something. We could go around that the same way spammers get around spam filters. By writing L3mmy for instance or something else entirely.
I think links to world dont work at all (just a rumor I heard) so we could use link shorteners.
No, they don't. The /r/KDE subreddit has their automod mention the Lemmy community on every post.
Tbf it could be that automod is exempt from such automatic banning/removal.
Ooh, shiny new community to join
I don't know how frequently this happens, but my experience is that a link to a lemmy group was deleted by mods. It was very politely worded, and suggested and alternative community on Lemmy, and also noted that there's no reason that somebody couldn't read both communities. It was still deleted as "spam or self-promotion."
That could just be a maturity issue with the mod who deleted it. It could also be that Reddit itself is doing it and simply said it was done by the mods of the group.
I have totally deleted all my Reddit contributions (still squatting on the username) and so I can’t really answer whether mentioning lemmy gets your comment shadow banned. We don’t really need more redditors, just need to wait for the first scandal and people will start googling “Reddit” alternatives (which ironically are all Reddit threads) and Lemmy is at the top of most of those lists. People should come here organically
Right? Personally, I want people who come here to care. Not the masses.
And I’ve got no desire to kill reddit or to grow lemmy. I’m not here for the inter-network wars.
Random thought, do Lemmy posts show up in searches?
I'm pretty sure that's how I ended up at reddit. After so many google searches lead me to the site, I decided to check it out some more
It depends on the subreddit. I think I've had only one comment "Removed by Reddit". The other comments I've had removed were reported by users. I've managed to come to an agreement with some mods who protect my comments mentioning Lemmy in exchange for some useful summaries and links.
Your mileage may vary. See my accounts in both places for details.
My last post there (pointing the way to lemmy) still stands, un-shadowbanned and slightly upvoted since last I saw it. But it's marked NSFW, as I guess the whole sub was set to at the time, which may be why it doesn't show up in search.
The Reddit admins have the lessons of Digg seared into their collective memory
Yes it would be nice to have more people on Lemmy to have more activity in the smaller communities, but otherwise I don’t think it’s so important.
Does it shadowban mentions of Kbin/Mbin or Piefed too?
I know a comment of mine got deleted qhere I mentioned Lemmy, but that's about it. I lost access to that account soon after and never made another one.
No lololol. You are using some weird form of techno Mormonism to justify your addiction. Jesus Christ.
That's the funniest thing i read in a while. Sheparding people over here hahaha