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Revealed: WHO aspartame safety panel linked to alleged Coca-Cola front group

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Revealed: WHO aspartame safety panel linked to alleged Coca-Cola front group

www.theguardian.com /business/2023/aug/17/who-panel-aspartame-diet-coke-guidelines

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Revealed: WHO aspartame safety panel linked to alleged Coca-Cola front group

www.theguardian.com /business/2023/aug/17/who-panel-aspartame-diet-coke-guidelines

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I always find it amusing that people have been like “well it doesn’t cause weight loss!”
It doesn’t.
Is it water better than diet soda? Absolutely. But no one is replacing water with diet soda. They’re replacing coke with Diet Coke. Or whatever.
Which means fewer calories which means potential weight loss (or for lower weight gain. CICO.) the problem is that most people who drink doet sodas tend to have a lot of other dietary habits that are equally awful as slamming back a 12 pack of Mountain Dew everyday…(eew.)
As for aspartame causing cancer… I dunno. But I’m guessing it’s lower than the threat being obese makes. S
- Actually this dude I worked with replaced water with diet Pepsi. He said the tap water was filled government nanobots or something. Hasn't drank water in 20 years. But he's not sane so...
  
  It is. and you see, he's replacing the government nanobots.
  but. you should tell him about the Coke Industries nanobots... implanting viral marketing in his head.
  
  From the EPA:
  PFAS are widely used, long lasting chemicals, components of which break down very slowly over time.
  Because of their widespread use and their persistence in the environment, many PFAS are found in the blood of people and animals all over the world and are present at low levels in a variety of food products and in the environment.
  PFAS are found in water, air, fish, and soil at locations across the nation and the globe.
  Scientific studies have shown that exposure to some PFAS in the environment may be linked to harmful health effects in humans and animals.
  There are thousands of PFAS chemicals, and they are found in many different consumer, commercial, and industrial products. This makes it challenging to study and assess the potential human health and environmental risks.
  
  Government nanobots must weigh quite a bit, so maybe he's lost some weight after the switch?
- I explicitly know of at least two people, whom I’ve met, who claimed that they refused to drink “just water”. It was always either soft drinks, juice, or water with flavoring, which often uses either aspartame or sucralose.
  Dunno if it was diet drink, but still…
  
  W. C. Fields didn't drink water. "Fish fuck in it." But he didn't drink soft drinks either. All of the liquid in his diet was obtained from booze.
- But no one is replacing water with diet soda. They’re replacing coke with Diet Coke. Or whatever.
  You’d be surprised.
  
  not really. there are plenty of people that don't drink water. at all... if they're just not asking for kidney stones, then they're replacing it with other things. sugar'd up soda being the most likely.
- artificial sweeteners causes your brain to crave sugar and you end up eating more sugar elsewhere.
  https://www.bing.com/search?q=artificial+sweeteners+and+sugar+cravings&pc=MOZB
  
  That's still just a self-control issue on your caloric intake regardless.
Aspartame, when it hits your intestines, immediately decomposes into 40% phenylalanine, 40% aspartic acid, and 20% methanol. Phenylalanine and aspartic acid are nutritious amino acids, otherwise known as protein. Since aspartame is so much sweeter than sugar, it's used in quantities small enough to make the methanol intake levels from a can of diet soda lower than what you would get from a cup of fruit juice.
There's no real danger.
- From the reporting I saw, it can be a problem if you drink like gallons of the drinks every day, which can actually happen irl, but is not common. Worth pointing out but not a cause for concern
  
  At that point the amount of water taken in and the acids in the soda will cause far more of a problem
  
  If you're drinking gallons of anything over a longer time, you'll have problems.
- Well, aspartame is a sure fire way to give me a migraine, so I don't believe your explanation.
  
  Aspartame isn't what is giving you the migraine. It's either psychosomatic or something else in the beverage you drank. Unless you receive a migraine when you drink fruit juice.
  As to whether you believe me or not, uhh, I don't know how to nicely put this. Factual reality doesn't change just because you feel it should be different. The metabolic products of aspartame and its digestion are well understood. It never reaches your bloodstream intact.
  
  You know what, I get a migraine when I spend more than 10 minutes with my mother-in-law. Just because you don't, doesn't mean she can't give you cancer.
Okay, corruption like that should be corrected. Regardless, there's no scientific evidence that aspartame is harmful. Let alone a biochemical reason for why a dipeptide of two amino acids, phenylalanine and aspartic acid, that dissociates in the stomach into its constituent components and some byproducts would be harmful in the first place.
Unless you have phenylketonuria, but you have much bigger problems in that case and, if that is the case for you, kudos on being at an age and capability to read and understand this post, you are incredible.
Edit: Also, just noticed the part about US Right To Know, which is a well known anti-science group that's been pushing pseudoscience and fearmongering about other topics, such as biotechnology, for years. So them being involved here raises questions.
Broo I knew something was off about that saga. Pretty bold, Coke.
I don’t get it. What would be Coke’s motive here? Wouldn’t they be cutting into their own sales if aspartame was shown as terrible for you?
- They released the study that said it wasn’t so bad. That article was a mashed wreck, though, so I could be mistaken
  
  If it's the report I think they're referring to, it basically said Aspartame is possibly carcinogenic but safe at normal consumption levels.
  It raised a lot of doubt around Aspartame being carcinogenic without going so far as to deem it non carcinogenic, concluding that more studies are needed.
  I wouldn't call it overwhelmingly positive for Coke but it's not hurting them.
Just drink black coffee.
- Let's not be crazy. A little half and half...
  EDIT: You guys must really hate creamer
  
  Quarter and quarter just to be on the safe side
Fuck the WHO. They are also in bed with the China CCP. Taiwan handled COVID like a boss and was not allowed to even show up to the conversation.

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