What's Wrong with Grover Furr?
What's Wrong with Grover Furr?
I've seen a few times people cite Furr while disavowing him in a more general sense, but I have never seen someone here talk about specific problems with him and his work.
I remembered this fact because I was looking up information on Losurdo and found a little eulogy Furr wrote for him (which incidentally had the answer I was looking for, that Losurdo did not speak Russian).
Furr seems like an absolute crank in terms of his general writing, see this text at the end of an article he wrote refuting a Current Affairs article:
I have been studying the allegations of crimes against Joseph Stalin for many years. My intention is to research every one of them.
When I began years ago I thought that it would be only a matter of time – perhaps a year or two – before I discovered that at least one of these allegations against Stalin was true, could be confirmed by primary-source evidence. I was wrong. So far, after several decades of searching, I have yet to evidence that Stalin committed even one crime, much less the myriad crimes that Trotsky, Khrushchev’s men, Gorbachev’s men, and academic researchers have confidently asserted.
I intend to keep looking. Perhaps some day I will discover at least one genuine crime by Stalin that I can truthfully say is supported by the best evidence we have. If and when I do, I will publish it and the evidence to support it.
Which is just a villain origin story, though again I must say that every refutation I have personally seen from Furr (though few in number) made sense.
So I ask again, what is actually wrong with him? Or has he merely inherited his own "Black Legend"?
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Perhaps some day I will discover at least one genuine crime by Stalin that I can truthfully say is supported by the best evidence we have.
We already know it, his only crime: he stopped at Berlin.
I was resisting doing an "inb4" joke with this or several of his other errors, like not throwing Trotsky in a dungeon.
I mean, afaik the Great Terror was found to be pretty well documented when the archives were opened up and if you're gonna shoot 750,000 people you're gonna fuck up at least a few times. ]
The Great Purge is something that takes a year off of my life every time I read more about it because it's such a fucking rabbit hole. Yagoda, probably the second most "prolific" killer among heads of the NKVD after Yezhov, was uncontestably a member of the opposition bloc. What does that mean for the charges of "wrecking" while he was head? How many people died because of deliberate sabotage? What about Yezhov, who received similar charges? The information on the Yezhov case, for example, is to this day not fully public and there remain ambiguities (e.g. was he actually tortured?).
I don't know, but it makes information difficult to sort through because suddenly you can't do the liberal historian thing of dismissing Soviet claims out of hand and making up your own account.
I feel myself having an existential crisis every time I talk about this because I sound like a 9/11 truther but, like with 9/11, there's a lot of shit going on here . . .
here is an example of Grover Furr using evidence which does not exist and cannot be verified (point #2), i also remember there was a thing about alleging khruschev or some later guy removed/altered the documents he based an argument on. a telegram that no-one can read that totally said what is conveinient for your view is just embarrassing, and while surely the guy makes more grounded points elsewhere these things can cast large shadows
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