Biden shouldn't debate Trump in the general election
Fuck Trump, he didn't even show up to the Republican primary debates. If Biden debates him it'll just give Trump more speaking time and publicity.
I don’t think you have to worry about it. While Trump claims he wants to debate, he will refuse when offered, whining about the “liberal media’s” rules that he finds unfair (which will probably include the ability to cut his mic when he resorts to his only strategy of talking over everyone else).
Recently answered this in another thread: by debate Trump means he will childishly shout over anyone he’s on stage with constant bullshit and juvenile rhetoric - no thanks. having seen trump in debates I honestly question anyone silly enough to try, he’ll never ‘debate’, he just gish gallops bullshit until his minders come to change his diapers.
Unfortunately "debates" are always moderated by spineless curs who are too cowardly to cut a mic or even question a blatant lie.
Yup, 'moderator' in the last few have been useless talking heads.
we need Pop-up Video for politics.
Supreme Court can't make you engage with an insurrectionist. Diapered coward is not a legitimate candidate for office, don't work to legitimize him by going through the motions of what the non-traitors do while running.
"We're gonna pass on Donny's circus. I've got a country to run and also, I'd feel guilty taking his focus away from prep for whichever of his 90 criminal charges he's whining about in court this week"
I do not think this opinion is unpopular lol
I believe it's currently unpopular. It may become more popular though the closer we get to the general election though.
It is a catch 22 for Biden he doesn't debate Trump - he looks weak. They hit him on being old and weak. He debates Trump - Trump look like a more legitimate candidate and Trump get to hijack the debate to spew bs.
Not debating is probably the better of the two but both is a loss. The best Biden can do is try to say that Trump won't debate on good faith but that despite being true will only get so much traction.
I completly agree. Trumps not running in good faith.
I agree, he should do what Trump did in the primary and skip 'em. Also, I think they would probably hurt him more than help.
The problem is if Biden doesn't debate Trump Trump can use that on the campaign trail. Probably a lot more usefully than if he didn't have that argument of "Sleepy Joe's too scared". They're both old af. In their heads probably neither of them wants an open debate.
What we need is 2024 SOTU Biden mopping the floor with him but who knows how likely that is.
if Biden doesn't debate Trump Trump can use that on the campaign trail
And if he DOES, Trump can use a twisted version of something Biden says at the debate, no matter how it goes.
When you're dealing with someone who has no compunction about just making shit up and whose cult following will believe him literally no matter what nonsense he spews, "that would give him ammunition" is never a good reason to do or not do anything.
What we need is 2024 SOTU Biden mopping the floor with him
As I touched on above, even if that DOES happen, Trump will still twist it into a win for himself. Reality and truth simply don't matter to him and his cult and pretending that it does gets us nowhere.
Donald is going to call him Sleepy Joe, and the cultists are going to be "lid" this and that regardless. Donald has been an incoherent lying dumbass since forever and they haven't clued in to that yet.
I actually agree. Analogies about mud wrestling with a pig and playing chess with a pigeon come to mind..
And then there's the added problem of giving him false legitimacy by acting like he's just another legitimate candidate rather than a career criminal fascist conman who should never have been allowed anywhere near ANY public office.
If asked, he should just say,"Insurrectionists can't hold office anyway. What's the point?"
Trump is clinically insane
Dementia/syphilis brain rot
It'll just collapse into one side devolving into name calling and disconnected phrases, while the other party is trying to speak. The moderator wont shut down the man child because ratings. At this point both sides have already firmly made their choice - these are people we already know.
Yup. Look at the last debate between the two: Trump doesn't debate, he interrupts, shouts over, and gish gallops. You can't debate someone who has no intention of respecting the process.
Donald showed up specifically so he could expose Biden to coronavirus. A less cowardly network would have threatened that he must uphold the rules on distancing or they'll give the spot entirely to Biden.
Biden should challenge Trump to an old fashioned duel. It Biden wins and Trump is killed, he can claim presidential immunity..
No, no that is a terrible idea. It will just make Biden look old. He needs to challenge him to laser pistols at dawn. That way he looked young and hip.
Then they'll complain he's got to much energy (weapons).
I don't think he should, but even if it happens, he will destroy him. Biden might be struggling with his age, but he has more than enough mental acuity left to push many of the attack vectors trump has opened on himself.
Biden should definitely debate but he should take the correct dose of his best mental clarity pills first. Whatever they did during the last campaign that transformed him overnight.
Yes, let's undermine the current system by deplatforming those we don't like.
A better option is to have a strong moderator who is able to turn off microphones when candidates go off the question. Make Trump look like an idiot when he only gets a few seconds to speak because he can't put meaningful words together... But Biden would probably have a similar issue.
Or maybe we could get some candidates who are below life expectancy? That might interest people.
undermine the current system by deplatforming those we don’t like.
Just the criminals.
Maybe a Biden vs Haley debate?
That would actually be hilarious, Biden debates Haley instead of Trump for the general election. Let's do that one.
To be fair, trump chose to deplatform himself in the same way during the primary and that didn't seem to affect his chances.
nah fuck that, we have to hear about them all year, the least they can do is put on a show for 3 hrs
At this point, it's just hard to believe there are many people who are actually undecided. I'm sure there are lots who say they are. And it's really more about Trump than about Biden. Of the people who would ever consider voting for a Democrat, some love Biden, some aren't excited by him, a few hate him. There's a whole spectrum. With Trump, I think it's more binary, even among Republicans. They generally love him or loath him. I'm not sure I've heard anyone recently say "Hmm, that Trump guy says some things I like, but I'm not sure if he has my vote or not."
I guess what I'm saying is that I doubt a debate would change anyone's mind unless one of them said something to really alienate their base. "I want to see them discuss their differences on foreign policy before I decide." I don't think so. It's probably more risk than benefit for either of them.
The undecided voters are probably the ones considering jumping from Biden to 3rd party over current hot buttons (e.g Palestine) than any ever would be Biden to Trump or vice versa.
Yeah, could be. So maybe the question is, would a debate make those kinds of people more or less likely to jump?
It's gonna be wild if those people upset about Gaza cost Biden the election and Trump ends up in office again.
I'm not American, and really don't want another 4 years of the insanity Trump brings but I'm just so fascinated by the Leopards circling around faces waiting to pounce....
10% being undecided imo is just people not willing to admit they're voting for Trump. Looney Toons.