Damn linux users!

My general rule is that i shouldn't spend more energy than the person asking for help because there are people that call for help not because they are unable to solve the thing on their own, but because they rather someone else did everything for them.

If you talk shit instead of genuinely having trouble with something, any hobby group will not take it lightly.

Such a simple concept. It's surprising the number of people who don't recognize this, then invariably go on to talk about how "toxic" the community was to them for "just asking a question."

Contrast to circa 1997, and I got dual boot and mounting my windows drive figured out. Hadn’t found out about non-root users yet.

I asked in EFnet #linux about how to start x. The answer I was given was rm -rf /. I said Thanks and rebooted to Linux.

Ladies and gentlemen, that is not the correct answer. The correct answer was startx. The answer I was given fucked both my Linux and my windows drives.

I feel the Arch devs and TUs can be quite helpful, but the users spreading the gospel can be the opposite sometimes. I remember a user saying Arch won't implement PackageKit because it was shit, but the actual reason from a developer was that PackageKit doesn't really work with rolling release distributions like Arch.

That's unusual. I got chewed out royally when I forgot I was on Manjaro and did a dmesg dump to a Arch forum question that of course showed the Manjaro kernel booting up. Like unpleasantly so, and I've got a pretty thick skin. And it wasn't a problem that was particular to Manjaro, it was a general pipewire bug I'd found.

I avoided the Arch forums like the plague after that, just figured it out on my own going forward, even when I was on vanilla Arch. I guess it was a good thing in that I learned more troubleshooting skills than I would have asking for help. I'd still go into the forums looking for answers, and I'd see the same few forum users/admins shitting on people in the threads. It was sad.

Maybe it's better today, haven't had to fix much recently.

I'm a Linux System Engineer, so when people ask what I do I just say "I work in IT" and when they dig deeper, I ask "how technical/good with computers are you?" because I've explained what I do at a general level to people and have watched them get more and more lost. I've also dumbed it down a lot and people are like "I know tech" and then I go full nerd and lose them.

It's an elitist mindset. I have been around a few. I try to be helpful, but I'm sure I have come off as a different way at times.

I've only ever experienced the first kind firsthand when asking for guidance, but seen a lot of the second in the form of online bickering not involving myself 😄

YOU'VE JUST MADE AN ENEMY FOR LIFE!

what distro do you use out of interest? and are we talking not working at all or… what's wrong with them exactly?

If you've been PC gaming on windows for a long time (a much longer time than I have actually) you'll have beef with Nvidia. You'll remember what they did. You'll remember when they released a driver to specifically break PhysX if there was an AMD card installed. You'll remember them consulting with game studios shortly before the release of certain games just to put yandere simulator toothbrush levels of too much polygon in certain scenes to make sure their cards benched favorably in said games. You'll remember a shit tonne of things like that they did. From an end user's perspective, a fair amount of users have a chip on their shoulder for one thing or another that Nvidia did.

insert bellcurve IQ meme about Ubuntu users at the low and high end, with Arch users in the middle

I use Arch, btw

Not exactly. It's still used as a basis for Mint and Pop_Os. It's still a fave basis for other people's distros. And I think if you're using an ubuntu based distro it's not your fault that your upstream is stupid. To clarify:

• ubuntu
• kubuntu
• lubuntu

-> PEBCAK

• Pop_Os
• Linux Mint
• Hannah Montana Linux

-> Silly maintainers using a dumpster fire like Ubuntu as a basis

yes, sorry

*their. I mean, they're petty much like a family member, so why not

Who is no tits?

Given that I've installed it around 2006 from a CD disk, they've fixed a lot of things since then.

It was the time when spending a week to just launch some graphical applications was something to boast about. Some would think people even made it harder on purpose to filter out Windows normies. Thankfully, sanity prevailed, after those same hax0r kids went to high-paying engineering jobs and had to deliver a working product on a fixed deadline. Now you insert your USB drive, press Next - Next - Next - Root password - Reboot, and have your FreeBSD installation working out of the box and ready to use in 20 minutes. Boring!

Samsung phones are not really better.

Of course they do!