They're actually fine with children dying because it means they get to go to heaven early, plus the adversity it causes their loved ones is beneficial. I'm serious, they told me this when I asked as a kid.
Then why do they want medical treatment, when their injuries bring them closer to their end goal: heaven?
Yes, why is it that religious people aren't completely logical?
There are a few religions that refuse forms of medical treatment. I agree with what you're saying, but it isn't unheard of
Something something suicide leads to hell.
Better question is why wouldn't parents immediately sacrifice their newborns on the Blood Altar? I can only go to hell once but I could sire many children and give them all a guaranteed ticket to heaven. Actually, I could even take a shortcut and blow up a maternity.
... now that I think abkjt it, I guess some fundamentalist lunatics have probably already done it, and now I'm sad.
This is one of the many reasons why I don't get their arguments against abortion. An abortion is just a baby's e-ticket to heaven.
No it’s not- scripture says the soul enters at its first breath. Their arguments are nonsensical because they can’t really argue the real reasons.
They’re opposed to abortion because they want people- specifically the poors, and specifically the black poors- to have to have that kid. Unplanned/unwanted kids provide a huge economic strain on the family, and greatly reduce the ability of the other kids to succeed in life.
This means they’re more likely to continue a tradition of low wage blue collar jobs, or even better, get in on the school-to-prison pipe and provide more or less free labor for ages.
(Of course the other reason is the raging misogyny.)
It’s also the same reason why they’re so against social safety nets, universal health care and public education.
This is why the pagan/Roman/greek gods made a lot more sense. They were all arseholes who didn't care about you.
Hera cared. Hera cared a lot.
Not that was a good thing. she cared because Zeus would come down as an animal and rape hot humans, so she cared an awful lot about people. So she could torture them.
Woah don't you know god is LOVE that is why he created hell to love his "children".
Oh sure, when God sure it it’s great, but when I trap my exes in a basement and spray them with a hose until they say they love me I’m a “freak” and a “monster”
Yea because its a small punishment you can do for uh what a lifetime ? Try torturing them eternally and then get back to me loser then i will obey you like a slave because logic.
Don’t kink shame…
I thought the last one's gonna be "— Gays? — I dunno they kinda appeared all by themselves"
Did ya see the recent bit about the humpback whales? Apparently the first time humpbacks have been filmed having sex, they were going broke back mountain ….
Oh man, I forgot all about that Kirk Cameron banana video with "Ray Shine" or whatever his religious propaganda porn name is. Good times.
religious propaganda porn
"Oh yeah baby, repent harder! Condemn those sins of the flesh! He's second COMING!"
"god's plan... god is testing them... god is testing ME!"
Epicurus' Paradox, beeyotch!
Trying to pull a fast one on Jesus huh? Not on my watch!
No problem, when kids die of hunger they go directly to the heaven and live there forever WO hungry and eating everything they want..
And the reason God couldn't have just put conscious souls directly in paradise is because shut up, that's why
god works in mysterious ways.. 🙏🤞
The last one on the right side could've been like "Oh, they were just unbaptised".
God gave humans free will. Millions of Children dying is not the result of lacking ressources. It is the result of shitty humans denying them.
The ultimate cop-out. Anything good? God. Anything bad? Free will. Nevermind, like, children with leukiemia.
Well, they obviously did something bad in the womb, like touching themselves.
We do have treatment for Leukemia and it has a very high success rate. The problem is the lack of people willing to register as donors.
So yes, everything good comes from god. Or rather god gave us the means to do good, that we couldn't do without him. But it is the free will of good people that turns the ability into reality.
Famines have been around for a lot longer than humans, as have causes of faminine, such as blight and volcanic winter.
And whatever free will we have (whether God-given or otherwise) isn't enough to overcome our instincts for dominance hierarchy and exclusionism, which figures into the (decades old) bullying crisis, An Oklahoma official calling Nex Benedict filth (and their kind, all trans gender persons, I infer). It also keeps billionares from using their ill-gotten gains to actually engage in large public-serving projects without turning them into capitalist enterprises.
As Stephen Fry noted, bone cancer in children is a pretty dick move. Unlike the plot armor (or tone armor) of our stories, children are disproportionately represented in mortality of disasters and epidemics. If God created everything then God is responsible for everything.
For us naturalists, on one hand we're captains of our own destiny: only we can reach for the stars and cure famine and warfare. On the other hand you can endeavor to teach a dog calculus and run head first into upper limits, and so it might be with us naked apes. As much as we want to imagine ourselves as galactic civilization material, we may just be simple hunter gatherers trying to bat out of our league.
And when we perish from pollution, disaster and ultimately famine, our gods die with us along with our mathematics and symphonies.
isn’t enough to overcome our instincts for dominance hierarchy and exclusionism,
Think again. Why do you think this? Why do you assume these to be given? Because we are living in a society that has bastardized what it means to be human and has elevated the worst of human traits to be cherished as something to strive for. And in such the reasons for perishment you mention lie in nothing but the results of that horrible barbaric culture we have inflicted on ourselves. American "Christians" are a prime exmaple of that. While Jesus was very clear about greed, ill gotten wealth and the duty to use your wealth for the betterment of society, it was bastardized in the delusion that rich people deserve to be rich and poor deserve to be poor.
It is such a blatantly corrupted version of what the scripture tells, that only those who themselves are deeply corrupted can say this and make themselves believe this.
But we see so many examples throughout human history, where people did not fall victims to what you believe to be impossible to overcome instincts. Humans are a product of their society just a smuch as their society is a product of them. The scriptures give us guidance how to create a society where we do not succumb to the worst of our traits, but aspire to the best of them.
An "all loving" god would let people die like flies.
