Man, oceanographers have been shouting this for decades. And let's just throw marine biologists/marine chemists in there as well. Ocean currents are stupidly powerful, to have them stop is scary beyond comparison. The warning temperature lifting the calcium carbonate compensation depth, literally acidifying the ocean past the point of habitability for everything but jelly fish... Good bye oxygen. It was fun hanging with y'all, break out the good stuff because you aren't handing it down to the next generation.
It was fun hanging with y'all, break out the good stuff because you aren't handing it down to the next generation.
Parents often say that they love their children and would do anything for them, but they didn't love them enough to give their children a habitable future.
If there was something they could do as an individual which would help only their individual child have a habitable future, they would absolutely do it.
Thing is, everything they can do either only works if we all do it or only helps every child equally (a tiiiny bit) while costing the parent individually.
It's a coordination problem. Humans lack the structures to coordinate as a species (the largest unit of coordination we have is a nation and even that doesn't work well).
My mum owns a house and everytime they try to build housing around me she tries her best to prevent it.
Kinda miss having my grandparents generation around because they tried and did make the country a better place for their children. They also knew how hard things were (obviously it was way worse for them than for me).
Man, oceanographers have been shouting this for decades. And let’s just throw marine biologists/marine chemists in there as well. Ocean currents are stupidly powerful, to have them stop is scary beyond comparison. The warning temperature lifting the calcium carbonate compensation depth, literally acidifying the ocean past the point of habitability for everything but jelly fish… Good bye oxygen. It was fun hanging with y’all, break out the good stuff because you aren’t handing it down to the next generation.
It's just more climate catastrophising. CaCO3 and H2CO3 form a buffer that would minimise the effects of acidification. The idea that all fish would die is dumb. Terrestrial plants produce oxygen by photosynthesis so oxygen won't disappear from the atmosphere.
I like how my head switched from how scary an alien invasion would be to thinking that aliens coming here and fixing this mess is our only hope at this point
We'd literally have to halt all emissions and start massive "rewilding" projects to turn this puppy around. Remember 2020 when human industrial activity paused for a while and nature took some time to take a breath? We will need things like that but all the time. Perhaps have arbour day a monthly thing? Perhaps close all factories over the weekend? Perhaps move to 3 day weekends? Perhaps make an ordinance that 50% of each country needs to be natural untouched protected wilderness?
Who knows? We need a lot of solutions NOW.
Corporations are hell bent on ushering in an environmental hellscape so they can keep up their profits and they're doing a pretty good job considering how many politicians they have in their pockets.
In the 2000's alien adoption stuff and aliens in general was huge. Every week there was another american redneck that got abducted by aliens. I sometimes couldn't sleep at night thinking about it.
Now i fucking wish aliens would abduct me.
It's much easier to understand that shorter, milder winters means you can make people be even more productive. Now winter can't slow down that road widening project.
I used to work with ocean researchers and they are some of the most depressed, heavy drinkers I've ever met. A big reason I moved on from that workplace.
Imagine writing scientific papers on an ocean you already know is dead. Research which is funded by the government, the same people who allow clear cut logging inland which has decimated the salmon population, which is vital to ocean life. So you better not be too loud about that when it's time to apply for more funding.
Clear cut logging, so our useless commonwealth friends over in the Atlantic have wood chips to burn and toilet paper to waste.
Or, the absolute molestation of our mountains so the rest of the world can buy more phones and EVs, which has destroyed said watersheds.
Can someone tell me whether sea level rises are still a concern and if so, why no one seems concerned?
When I was a kid that was the big scary climate change thing. I know it's maybe only 50cm but that's still problematic for lots of real estate... isn't it?
Like just the other day I visited an expensive apartment that would've been maybe 50cm above sea level.
The rising of the sea is astronomically slow, so there's a lot of denial about it. It's already a minor (maybe moderate?) problem here on the east coast of the US. Boston, NYC, and Miami are already seeing more flooding during storms than they saw historically.
But if there's someone who is willing to pay for a waterfront property despite the risk, then there will always be someone willing to sell it to them.
Regular people don't seem concerned because of reporting bias. People that continue to live on coastlines aren't going to be fearful of living on coastlines. Insurance companies are pulling out of Florida for this reason however. Sea level rising is still going to happen.
I guess part of my question was whether it's progressing more quickly than previously anticipated given that climate change is progressing more quickly than previously anticipated.
My local council has a 100 year plan to mitigate the impact.
The problem isn't just the level the seas rise to because of melted glaciers; it's the increase in chaos in weather systems - storm surges like the ones blasting mansions off of cliffsides in cali, crazy flooding, more hurricanes of increased intensity, etc
It's a concern already for low-lying atoll islands like those in the Maldives and Tuvalu. Half of Tuvalu's capital city is expected to be flooded by 2050, but they've been seeing the effects for years unfortunately.
It really depends where you are though - my town is at around 100 m elevation and about 80 km inland. When I was a kid, my mum used to have nightmares about tidal waves coming over the horizon because she was so scared of sea level rise.
The thing is though... bad things happening to rich people's money usually means worse things for poor people.
It's really naive to think that a bunch of expensive property becoming worthless is not a big deal because it only affects poor people.
Suggesting that rich people are the only ones who own low lying property is a flawed premise also. What about low-lying island nations? What about low lying inland areas? There's plenty of communities in Australia that aren't necessarily close to the coast but would have an altitude of less than 1 metre.
From his office at the University of Miami, Brian McNoldy, an expert in hurricane formation, is tracking the latest temperature data from the North Atlantic with a mixture of concern and bewilderment.
Across the unusually warm Atlantic, in Cambridge, England, Rob Larter, a marine scientist who tracks polar ice levels, is equally perplexed.
The current El Niño weather cycle is also leading to additional heat in the Pacific Ocean and allowing more energy to be released into the atmosphere.
Recent research has suggested that as glaciers melt and more fresh water enters the Atlantic, a crucial ocean current could falter, potentially leading to drastic changes in global weather patterns, such as a rapid reduction in temperatures across Europe.
Flaco, the Eurasian eagle-owl who escaped from the Central Park Zoo and became a New York City icon, died last Friday after he flew into a building.
In Central Park on Saturday, mourners carrying flowers and binoculars wandered among some of Flaco’s favorite oak trees, searching for the right spot to pay tribute, my colleague Ed Shanahan reported.
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My therapist says I need a therapist.
And if I’m going to waste my time with activism, it’s going to need to involve blood, and not my own. I’m open to suggestions.