New Zealand repeals world-first smoking ban passed by Jacinda Ardern
New Zealand repeals world-first smoking ban passed by Jacinda Ardern
www.independent.co.uk
New Zealand repeals world-first smoking ban passed by Jacinda Ardern
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National will be happy that the tobacco industry will retain robust profits.
Nicotine is 10 times more addictive than heroin or cocaine and 6 to 8 times more addictive than alcohol.Once again, thank your stupid uncle for voting for National.
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No one sucks a cock for a few cigarettes. Your claims are ridiculous nonsense. Nicotine is harmful, cigarettes are terrible and difficult to quit, but they are not 10 times more addictive than heroin, christ.
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How addictive it is doesn't translate as to how harmful it can be to your psyche and/or how bad the withdrawal effects are, which is what translates into people doing crazy shit for heroin, for example.
It is also ignoring how much easier you can get nicotine, compared to heroin.
This is an incredibly short sighted comment.
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Not sure why you are being down voted, you are completely correct
Most "facts" surrounding drug addiction are just marketing schemes that lobbyists like DARE have claimed over the years.
No nicotine is not 10x more addictive than cocaine, and no it's not more addictive than heroin. As others have said addiction is measured in different ways, but the most important modifier is withdrawal symptoms. Compared to nicotine or cocaine, heroin withdrawal is several magnitudes worse, and the only one that can kill you.
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No one sucks a cock for a few cigarettes.
I bet no one would suck cock for crack if they carried it at the Circle K and you could find crack butts in ashtrays.
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No one sucks a cock for a few cigarettes
That's not what your mom said last night.
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New Zealand didn't. The currently elected fuckwits did.
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New Zealand has passed a bill to ban those aged 14 and under from ever legally buying cigarettes in an effort to make the country smoke free by 2025.
That's the gist of the law, for the curious. It established a cap on the year the person was born in order to consume tobacco. The rationale is that of you've never smoked, you won't miss it, so in a couple generations the country goes smoke free.
Smokers unaffected by the ban are up in arms for some reason? Can someone explain why would they care?
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Good. It's not the governments place to ban people from making unhealty decisions when they don't affect others.
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In a country with universal healthcare this is simply not true. Smoking increases your risk of many health problems, many of them with very expensive long term treatments. That money could be better spent on increasing access to other aspects of healthcare for everyone.
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That’s what taxes are for. Tax the sh*t out of cigarettes to account for the increased public health spending. Banning a substance is not the only, neither the best, solution to addiction.
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many of them with very expensive long term treatments.
Smokers die before spending anywhere near as much as non-smokers' old age care.
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Oof, this is the only valid argument against universal health care I have ever heard. I never really thought of the fact that once the government manages my Healthcare they will tell me even more of what I am allowed to do with my own body. "If you are gay you are not covered, we don't want to pay for the additional risks" "you have a misdemeanor drug possession on your record, you can never get Healthcare, because we don't want to pay for the possible medical costs secondary to your drug use".
That could go poorly.
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Just make sure you apply this consistently and you also ban all other non essential recreational activities that have an higher than average risk of injury.
Just think of all the money the healthcare system could save if you simply banned fun.
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Right, so when they develop health complications due to smoking, they get lowest priority care after everyone else has been treated, right?
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By that logic you should also get a lower priroty if you injure yourself during any risky recrational activity.
Like, if you're injury yourself doing something stupid for "fun" ... like, I don't know, playing rugby?
Apprently in your world healthcare is only for people that get sick by totally random chance.
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If you want to do cocaine or mushrooms, go ahead. Hell, if you want to smoke on your own property, go ahead. That being said, second-hand smoke is gross and affects everyone around you, and I support a public smoking ban.
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