You WILL use chrome, and you WILL watch the ads!

I really, really don’t understand why people use Chrome, or have been using it in the past
- I used it for years and just recently switched to Firefox. I was just comfortable using it, and knew how to use the dev tools. I had my extensions set up how I liked. I’m still missing a few things on Firefox but fuck chrome.
  
  What things are you missing?
- It’s really easy to forget that back in the day (by which I mean what, 2010? Idk) chrome was super speedy and very cool with cool fast looking angular tabs and Google was a nice new cool internet company who’s moto was don’t be evil and the alternative was fucking internet explorer which was a cinder block in a blue shirt or Firefox which had a cool logo but was rather slow and the joke was that internet explorer’s whole purpose was to download chrome and I guess what I’m saying is that Google has lived long enough to see itself become the villain, or at least Comcast which is pretty much the same thing and tbh the only other time I can think of that something like this has actually happened is in 1998, when The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table
  
  You dropped these:
  ..,,..,,
  
  Goddamn it not on lemmy too
- It was faster than Firefox and more accurate than Internet Explorer.
  That was a decade ago. Since id say Firefox and Chrome are the same speed and Edge is just branded Chrome.
  Chrome used to be new and exciting when Google was still a "do no evil" hip tech company doing neat shit like Google Earth and stuff.
- I use chrome for work because it's installed on every computer we have and the machines are locked down so I can't install firefox if I wanted to. I move around between stations all the time so logging in and having all my bookmarks, passwords, history, etc... synced is convenient. I use firefox at home but most people just stick with what's familiar to them. It's a solid browser feature-wise and that's what most people care about.
- Chrome is the only way I've figured out to cast video from my pc to my TV.
  Casting is the only thing I use chrome for.
  
  AFAIK you can use Airplay on FF or some equivalent
- "It's the fastest!"
  This is the most common reason I've heard.
- Some industry tools are not developed with mutli browser in mind (don't ask me why...)
- So it's the most popular browser because it's the most popular browser. Got it.
  
  Yeah and I think there was a time before Quantum where Firefox was drastically slower than chrome, and a lot of people switched.
- Because the majority of people only know safari, edge, and chrome exist.
- The last time I tried Firefox on a touch device the pitch to zoom function was basically useless. It was nothing but an equivalent to [Ctrl] + [+]. This was some years ago, so it could be better now.
  
  You can enable normal zoom in config. But on my Linux setup pinch would either toggle Ctrl++ or image-like zoom.
- Because Firefox crashes my OS, for some odd reason.
  
  Unless it's a RAM filling issue, because you would have too little RAM, and even then, the entire OS crashing and not just Firefox would be very unlikely, I don't see any reason for it to crash your entire OS. Regardless, there are Firefox forks that use much much less RAM. You're using Windows, Mac or Linux first? Try to uninstall, clean everything and reinstall with a new profile, it may work, who knows. If not, then it has to be your OS.
  
  Even firefox developer edition?

you will buy the useless crap. You will work extra hours to afford it.
- I've noticed that the average listed salaries on Indeed have gone down about 30% in the last 2 years, which is great because prices of damn near everything have gone up at least as much.
  
  well how else will the billionaires buy their thirtieth yacht with a docking spot for a smaller yacht?

- Do Out have time to talk about our lord and savior LibreTube?
- LBRY/Peertube master race
- The amount of stuff I watched on YouTube was 0.
  Honestly it's about time the internet grows up a bit and stops relying on horrible video tutorials.
  
  Fun fact: people use YouTube for things other than tutorials
  
  Why would we not use one of the most convienent ways to teach yourself skills? Thats incredibly backwards
  
  I'm sorry - video tutorials are so much easier for me to learn from than reading. I am 40 and have a disability. It's far easier for me to comprehend a video than reading - and since I can't have someone come to my home and teach or show me all the things I want to learn how to do - I watch videos.
  I think the issue is corporate greed - not people wanting to watch cat videos and learn how to unclog a sink or watch someone cook something.
  
  For certain specific use cases a video tutorial can be incredibly useful.. like replacing specific parts on appliances or cars after diagnosing the problem.
  Much of the content there is just noise to me too but there's definitely some shit I find valuable.

My future browser will be a terminal prompt
- You can use Lynx. Here is the google homepage:
  
  Nice. but Unfortunately WEI will detect the header of the request and block site access even with a terminal browser. The end is near.
  
  Browsh is pretty cool for a text-based browser.
  
  that's pretty cool!

Seriously just use Firefox for your browser and Revanced on mobile for youtube
- I WON'T use FF and I DON'T use youtube. Like, at all.
  
  why not?
  
  Legit curious why you won't use Firefox. As a longtime FF user I'm well aware that Mozilla has made plenty of stupid decisions, but how does that make Google a better choice?

I would not be surprised if regular people tolerated 5+ minute ad breaks for a short video. Too much bs has been normalized for that to be much of a surprise anymore.
Like a frog slowly heating in a pot of water, you can get used to just about anything if you're apathetic enough.

I'll torrent YT videos before I watch ads.

tehe nevah. think I sent some money and got this poster. name is on there somewhere

Looks like Black Mirror was not only prediction

I never stopped using Firefox, and I never had a problem with anything but Government sites.
- That's weird, usually government websites will work in old IE version without any issue.
  
  Exactly. Usually gov sites are optimised for i.e 8, because accessibility is critical.
  You can't just expect people have a super up to date browser.
  This is the mentality where I live anyway.
  
  I think it's a Java thing?

GetFirefox.com

Get piped

How many verification cans have you had to drink today sir?
- OK, move along. It's an old reference, but it's built on solid greentext.

Those greedy bastards push people to watch ads like they expect their companies' income will grow infinitely

I hate google but can you stop posting the same shitty memes in different formats
- Nice try google employee!
  
  my man literally the first four posts I see are just complaining about google adblock, and I keep seeing it over time yes we get it you don't like ads and google is adding adblock. move to firefox/ublock (or no ublock if you want to support the content creators) and let it go imo, there aren't even that many ads on youtube, I barely notice them normally cuz theres only one every 3 videos or so and it's like 5 seconds long for a 20 min video (if there are more ads inside a video I'm pretty sure that usually means the creator put them there, not youtube)

More like "you will use chromium and you will watch ads."
- Google has learned Embrace Extend Extinguish.
  They’re game plan is to kill their competition in the long run.

or nah, just use piped on firefox :3

Both YouTube and Chrome are bloatwares in my Samsung smartphone. I happily use NewPipe!

I'd rather drink a verification can and do a little dance.
- "PLAYER ATTEMPTING TO STEAL ONLINE GAMEPLAY"

I'm just gonna be outside off this.

Sorry, a little bit OOTL. I remember about Chrome making adblock-blockers. But could someone explain the relation to youTube?
- YouTube has ads and google’s new WEI api will force browsers to comply.
  Web Environment Integrity (WEI) is an api that will validate your browser and hardware to ensure you’re not tampering with webpages in any meaningful way.
  extensions and unapproved browsers will be gutted.

What's going on with Chrome? Can't find news about it
- The TLDR is that Google is implementing DRM into Chrome that will cause sites to only work on validated Chromium-based browser installations and operating systems.
  
  So... ~~Don't~~ Be evil?
- I don't know if this is widespread, but I started getting video ads on YouTube while using Chrome, despite having uBlock Origin. Firefox + uBlock Origin still works great though!

Pi-hole
- Doesn't really work for youtube, as some of the ads are served from the same server as the content.
  
  uBlock Origin does away with them. PiHole is more and more outclassed by the architecture hosts like Youtube deploy anyway.
  
  The pi hole doesn't by itself, but adding in ublock origin is typically enough to get the job done. I basically never see youtube ads outside of the sponsored sections and I guess I could use sponsor block for that
- worth running even if it didn't block a single incoming ad. the amount of shit that phones home is truly absurd.

Idk bro I pay YouTube premium

YouTube Premium y’all.
- Lmao, imagine actually paying for youtube premium
  
  Yeah, imagine it. It’s pretty nice.