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A real car guy wouldn't have anything in particular against EVs because he already drew the line at automatic transmissions.
- Car guy checking in. I think Teslas are cool and all, but trains are the future. I want trains to be so good that people would rather take them so that people like me, who care a lot about driving, get to drive. And people who would rather read a book or play a game while commuting aren't forced to drive when they clearly don't want to.
  I have a 1997 Prelude Type SH manual. And I'm looking to replace my 2012 auto Civic with an 8th Gen Accord LX manual because I really missed driving stick daily and want a cheap manual I can daily.
  
  100% this. I'm passionately on the other end of the spectrum, where a car's entire purpose is to get me from A to B without fanfare, prestige, or hassle. Also needs the birds eye camera because fuck parallel parking. Trains are a better way to do all that. And we should be moving more good with trains. Trucks are expensive and should be last mile exclusively.
  The problem for most people is that trains, and other public transport, don't take you from doorstep to doorstep. God help us all if we have to walk 1/4 mile to a stop. There is also politics preventing it, at least in America.
  
  Civic? A car you can trust.
  
  You can ev swap ice cars and keep the manual transmission. It's actually the easiest way to swap to electric. I've always wanted to try it but it's pretty pricey
- There are stick shift EVs. They're expensive, but you can actually get an old ICE body, and convert it to an EV stick shift.
  https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a44211128/toyota-prototype-ev-sports-car-manual-transmission/
  
  They won't sell, since electrics don't work like ICE do.

Bicycle guys: "A car with an electric motor is still a car"
- I'm don't do very much bicycling, but I much prefer breathing next to EVs than ICE vehicles. Being forced to breath someone's stinky exhaust when you're breathing heavy from physical exertion sucks.
  
  Yeah I’d rather be a cyclist next to EVs, but I’d much rather not have to share the road with cars. Those things are dangerous.
  
  you're going to shit when you find out sidewalks are next to streets.
  
  Breathing in Micro-rubber/micro-plastics from disintegrating car tires isn’t fixed at all by electrification.
  I can also hear ICE cars approach from behind when I’m cycling, but that isn’t the case with electric vehicles (which might be using “autopilot” and can’t see me on the road). I’m not sure if that whirring sound is present outside of low speeds, but I certainly can’t hear it with wind crossing my ears. Sometimes tire noise is audible, but not always.
  On the other hand, ICE drivers are more likely to intentionally try to hit me soooo
- But I'm sure a bicycle guy still understands the benefit of electric cars over regular cars
- Literally true; but also yes. A car that doesn't look before turning is the same whether it's ICE or EV. I'm a bus-and-walking guy, not a bike guy, but any car is a danger to me when I'm crossing the street. It's not a problem we're going to solve with batteries. Mass transit, raised crosswalks, narrowing roads, physical speed controls, and densified cities (to name a few) are all things we desperately need.

Cute. But fuck Tesla.
- Better yet, Unionize Tesla.

Person who does not care about a topic
No reaction
Person who cares
Strong reaction
No way!
- Reactionary is when you react, everybody knows that.
- Ya wai.

Reactionary Car Guys: look at the performance numbers on this ICE car! Fast! Acceleration! Wow!
EV proceeds to beat all those metrics
Reactionary Car Guys: Performance doesn’t matter!
- I don't know if car guys means hobbyist and tinkerers, but for those performance isn't the most important metric to begin with. Feel and being able to repair and tinker are big ones.
  
  As an EV zealot I 100% support tinkerers, racers, and people who simply love the spirit of an ICE. But not in commuting/traffic, where nobody is enjoying anything anyway.

Reactionary car guys are the people "ice"-ing charging stations and talking about how they're just going to consume more oil in response.

It's illegal to get a tesla and not get a vanity tag with a EV joke on it
- While this was the case at one point, with the rise in EV ownership the pool of good EV joke plates became fewer and fewer. Many state have passed legislation allowing new EV owners to petition for non-EV joke plates where the state has reached full saturation. /s
  edit: Why is @neptune@dmv.social being downvoted? They posted a joke. This isn't a high art forum. Its in a shitpost community.
  
  It's depressing but we probably need to bring the "/s" back because people here are fucking clueless

How about just no cars
- It'd be nice if I had an alternative first.
  
  I agree, I'm just sick of cars and I drive one a lot for work
  I don't have solutions, I'm just complaining catharticly

I too enjoy foil

Find me EV with soul and I buy

And the truth is somewhere in the middle
- I hope it’s closer that the “huh. Whatever.” reaction than the second one.
  
  I hate the mentality of the people who spew that bullshit, but I also don't like the idea of thinking you are a planet saving warrior for driving a brand new SUV.
- You mean the top one?
  
  Both platforms have problems, thinking anything else is being a part of the problem.
- Kinda... It's just that all modern cars are pieces of surveillance tech with a side gig of transporting meatbags. Kinda worse with EVs, tho, AFAIK

Sooo with that auto pilot feature, would it be possible for he/she to give a blow job from the driver's seat?? Asking for a friend