This tiny maneuver is going to cost us a day's worth of productivity

Little do you know that there's a hidden, 3rd option I take every night: just don't fix your sleep schedule

Or maybe option 4?

Taking a bunch of edibles to make you sleepy at the right time
- I got CBD oil the other week. Shit's been great so far. Makew going to bed at the right time feel so natural
- At this point, I'm open to all suggestions.

Its currently 7am. I woke up at 10am.

I feel ya
Oof, I feel that. At least it's better than the days it's 9am and I woke up at 7am...the previous day.

I've been on nightshift for 5 years and I don't know when I'm supposed to sleep anymore

Same. Time doesn't mean much anymore, other than 'what time do the stores open' and 'should I do my shopping now before shit closes' lol.

I do this multiple times a month. I'm going to die early

I've been on a bender bro. Started sometime around 2021. Would not recommend, the days start to blend together and I've lost track of days countless times. Every once in a while I get 8.5 hours of sleep in the daytime and when I wake up I despair for the many weeks I've spend in a half asleep fugue state.
- Ok so you're definition of bender might be very different from mine because normally a bender is like, 2 weeks. You need sleep meds bro, they're life changing
  
  I know what you mean about days blending together though. Do you ever get really paranoid? I feel like I'm 6 walking through a dark house again after a 48 hours of not being able to sleep
- Yeah you don't feel as bad when you are sleep deprived compared to actually getting out of sleep deprivation. You don't feel THAT different, then you rest and it's amazing how different it is.
  
  But I have no control over myself so what can I do :)

"Sleeping early" ha, no such thing. Just setting yourself up to stare at the ceiling.

We're supposed to force ourselves to get up still dead tired instead even if we didn't get much and "eventually" says the doctor, "you will get tired enough to sleep on time". LIES. ALL LIES.

I read somewhere people with ADHD often have either a delayed circadian rhythm or one thats longer than 24 hours. No amount of pigeonholing life into the usually prevalent circadian rhythms is going to fix that I think.

Startup idea: We slow down the earth's rotation to adhere to these longer cycles.
- Or we go to mars, days are slightly longer there.
  
  Never been diagnosed adhd but my body def wants a 26hr day.
Yep, that's what I was told every time I brought up my sleep issues. Yeah, it's been a few decades and surprise it's never worked. Overtired me tends to be awake for longer. And then when I eventually crash, because it is inevitable, I crash HARD and sleep for 10+ hours completely dead to the world. Thankfully so far I haven't slept through anything super important. I can only go to sleep quickly if I run myself absolutely ragged.
- Same. My brain doesn't want to sleep "early" even if I have gone all week on less than 3 hrs each night, and waking early is pure hell. But staying up and then letting my crash hit at a time I know I will then wake when I -want- to is almost trivial if nobody interferes.

Or option 3, don't sleep for a day, then instead of going to bed when you planned you zone out for 6 hours

Yep, this is me. Hold out till around 3 or 4, when that afternoon post-lunch nap wave hits. Out cold in a microsecond.
- That seems like it could be the play for me too... I'm going to try using the afternoon crash next time instead of reaching for coffee

I feel called out

I'm doing the right side thing right now. I am the night.

Take care of yourself, and start your nighttime routine atleast 2 hours before you want to sleep

The actual answer is to set your wake up time, and go to bed when you're sleepy, whenever that is.

Just get up at the same time each day (no snooze alarm, get out of bed, else you might be less sleepy at the end of the day) and you're half-way there.

Figuring out how long you actually need to sleep is a process involving changing how long you try to sleep for. (So if you set your wakeup time at 7AM, maybe try 11PM) Taking note of how long it takes to get to sleep and if you wake up during the night. (Not sleepy, taking too long at 11PM, then go to bed at 11:30PM for multiple nights and see if you're sleeping through more. Sleeping quickly and through the night, but still feeling tired after many nights on average, maybe try a bit more sleep instead)

Never try to go to bed early when you're not sleepy, it won't work.

Also accept that your sleep quality is going to vary from night to night, that's life.

As recommended by a sleep psychologist (not me).

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