Mass Grave in Gaza Points to “Execution-Style” Killings by Israeli Forces
Mass Grave in Gaza Points to “Execution-Style” Killings by Israeli Forces
Palestinian officials are accusing Israeli forces of carrying out “execution-style” killings in Gaza after the discovery of a mass grave containing at least 30 decomposing bodies. Some of the victims were blindfolded with their hands tied behind their backs with zip ties. The bodies were found on th...
More video and eyewitness info on Al Jazeera so far
Also reported on Common Dreams and Middle East Eye.
I haven't found any reports of any independent investigations yet, hopefully they are underway
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Here's the problem... For the past several decades or so, Israel has blockaded Gaza and the West Bank from getting any kind of support from the outside.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip
They don't have the material or the personnel to do ANYTHING about the violence being enacted against the Israelis and that's BY THE DESIGN of the Israelis.
So what do you expect the Palestinians to do? Israeli policies have been crushing them for decades, they don't have the capacity to throw out Hamas because Israel actively prevents them from having the capacity. Sooo? Obtain weapons illegally? Now in the eyes of Israel they ARE Hamas and they get attacked too.
It gets even worse, because it means they don't have great access to information either.
There was a video soon after Oct 7 that showed Palestinians celebrating in the streets. They hadn't been told about the civilian deaths or kidnappings though, only that a prison had been liberated. And that context wasn't shown alongside their celebrations when Israelis saw it.
The suppression of information has led to misunderstandings that perpetuate the hate and the war. Just as Netanyahu wants, I suspect.
Except Gaza shares a border with Egypt that Israel was not controlling before the Oct. 7 war and I'm not sure if they are controlling it now.
Israel is preventing Palestinians from overthrowing Hamas? Why would that be true and what evidence of that claim do you have?
You can't defend people and strip them of all agency at the same time.
Israel blocks all materials that the Palestinians would need to throw out Hamas and they have been doing that for decades.
So, again, what do you expect the Palestinians to do?
So to the best of your knowledge, there has not been a single uprising attempt against Hamas, and the Jews in Israel are to blame?
Wow.
No, again, Israel has COMPLETELY blockaded Gaza.
The Palestinians don't have anything with which to even attempt to throw out Hamas.
So what would you have them do? What do you think Israel's reaction would be if they tried to smuggle weapons in through the blockade?
Again, this is all Israel's design. They could lift the blockade today. They could normalize relations with the Palestinians today. They won't, because what they really want is to choke them out and steal their land. They won't be satisfied with less.
https://newrepublic.com/post/178243/benjamin-netanyahu-literally-says-from-the-river-to-the-sea
"According to other translations, Netanyahu said that Israel “must have security control over the entire territory west of the Jordan River,”"
So your argument is essentially that the Jews are to blame for terrorist actions against them and the terrorists themselves should not be held accountable because the Jews won't allow it...
I'm not sure if you personally are an antisemite but the people telling you this nonsense clearly are and I think you should start considering how these arguments come across to people who aren't antisemites.
No, I'm saying Israel is to blame for the Palestinians inability to do anything about Hamas.
If you want Hamas gone, stop treating Palestinians like terrorists.
I'm not the one treating Palestinians like terrorists, you are. You are the one claiming they support terrorism against Israel because Israel forced them into it.
That's nonsense and you don't believe that.
I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying they are incapable of dealing with Hamas on their own because Israel does not allow them the supplies and support they need to be able to deal with them.
If Israel lifted the blockade and allowed the Palestinian Authority to act on their own, as an independent government, Hamas would be gone.
Israel will never do that, because they see all Palestinians as the enemy.
"Israel’s former chief military advocate general and the country’s former attorney general no less, who declared that to destroy Hamas “then you have to destroy Gaza, because everything in Gaza, almost every building there, is a stronghold of Hamas”."
...Gaza has had 15 years to try and Mount an offensive against Hamas.
Israel is attacked with a bombing essentially weekly over the last near 2 decades. Where are the supplies for those coming from?
Is Qatar possibly the answer?
Gaza has been blockaded by Israel since 2005.
Did you even BOTHER reading the links?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip
"Israel blockaded the Gaza Strip at various levels of intensity in 2005–2006, with Israeli imposed closures having a history going back to 1991.[7][8][9][10][11] In 2007, after Hamas seized control of the Gaza Strip, Israel imposed an indefinite blockade of Gaza that is ongoing to present day, on the grounds that Fatah and Palestinian Authority forces had fled the Strip and were no longer able to provide security on the Palestinian side.[12] "
Here's another good one:
https://www.oxfam.org/en/timeline-humanitarian-impact-gaza-blockade
"Less than 16% of items needed to construct vital water infrastructure are reaching Gaza"
You: "bUt why Don'T theY dO sOMetHiNg ABout HAMaS?"
They can't. They literally can't, and the reason they can't is Israel's blockade.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_Gaza
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks
Israel fully withdrew from Gaza and displaced Israelis that had been living in Gaza since the 1940s because of two decades of terror bombings of busses in Israel.
I vehemently oppose the use of violence to achieve political goals in all forms.
I would suggest educating yourself on this conflict and the historical reasons for the state of the conflict today.
Nobody cares what happened in the 1940s, we're talking about the abuses heaped on Gaza within living memory.
Unfortunate to not care about Israeli civilians being displaced, how am I supposed to care about Palestinians being displaced then?
When the Israeli civilians are engaging in UN declared illegal occupations, it's hard to have sympathy.
Pretty sure it's illegal to slaughter thousands of civilians on 10/7. Hard to have sympathy.
Oh, it absolutely is, I'm not justifying murdering people.
Kicking people out of settlements they are occupying illegally because they have a delusional belief that God gave it to them? No sympathy there.
Completely agree. Very unfortunate that so many Israelis were forcibly displaced during the disengagement from Gaza in 2005. Thank you for considering their plight.