Joe Biden wins primary election in New Hampshire despite not even being on the ballot
Joe Biden wins primary election in New Hampshire despite not even being on the ballot
His supporters mounted a campaign to write him in on the ballot.
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For zero delegates...
Unless the DNC is going to retroactively change their mind and not strip NH of their delegates now that Biden won.
Which would be really shitty considering lots of people didn't vote because without delegates it was literally pointless.
Just because Republicans went full on fascist doesn't mean Dems need to start pulling this stupid shit.
Let’s make up a scenario in our head that never existed and get pissed off about it.
Who do you think you are, my subconscious!?
The party could ultimately decide to seat New Hampshire's delegates at the convention this summer, but as of now, none will be awarded in Tuesday's Democratic primary.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-delegates-new-hampshire-primary-2024/
Welp, looks like you're wrong...
Edit:
I'll add the full context even
Last year, the Democratic Party moved to shake up its primary calendar and allow South Carolina to hold the first primary. New Hampshire Democrats said moving the date of their primary would require a new state law and couldn't be done in time.
The Democratic National Committee said the state violated the party's rules by holding its contest earlier than allowed, and thus none of the state's delegates would be up for grabs in the election. Mr. Biden also protested the primary date and withheld his name from the ballot, so anyone who wants to vote for the commander in chief will have to do so with a write-in vote.
Democratic candidates like Rep. Dean Phillips and self-help author Marianne Williamson will be on the ballot Tuesday, but Mr. Biden is still expected to win. The party could ultimately decide to seat New Hampshire's delegates at the convention this summer, but as of now, none will be awarded in Tuesday's Democratic primary.
In 2020, New Hampshire Democrats allotted 24 pledged delegates.
24 delegates, thrown out because the state party (who is in charge of primaries) didn't do what the national party asked, because that would require changing state law and there just wasn't time for that.
So the DNC and Biden threw a tantrum and tossed democracy out the window.
Are you aware that New Hampshire decided to unilaterally put themselves first in the primary schedule based on some nonsense in their state constitution?
"The presidential primary election shall be held on the second Tuesday in March or on a date selected by the secretary of state which is 7 days or more immediately preceding the date on which any other state shall hold a similar election, whichever is earlier, of each year when a president of the United States is to be elected or the year previous," the law says.
But last year, the Democratic Party, supported by President Biden, announced it would be changing its primary calendar to prioritize South Carolina and move up battleground states such as Michigan and Georgia. New Hampshire's state government, controlled by Republicans, refused to comply with the DNC's new rules and scheduled the primary for Jan. 23, leaving it first.
As a result, Mr. Biden is not appearing on the ballot, although his campaign has launched an aggressive write-in campaign. Democratic candidates participating in the unofficial primary on Tuesday will not win any delegates, so any victory will be symbolic.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-new-hampshire-primary-first-in-the-nation/
As I'm somewhat a fan of democracy, I think that South Carolina is a much better first primary state than New Hampshire for the simple reason that it better represents the demographic and ideological makeup of that party.
I agree with the commenter above, you've inventing shit to be mad at.
They stripped the state of their primary delegates...
Because the state party wouldn't violate state law...
I get why you added the "somewhat" to that end but tho.
And I don't think any exchange with somone so anti-demacratic will ever be productive in a political sub.
Yep, ya got me bro. Nothing says "i love democracy", or as you call it "demacracy", like advocating for a small state which is not at all representative of the broader voting base to unilaterally put itself first in line to the nomination process. 😂
With people like you around it's no wonder Socrates was put to death by popular vote. They also loved making shit up to get mad at back then.
I was with you until you added the ad hominem attack.
Fair. Totally fair.
That was wrong of me, I was just tired of constant bad-faith arguments over nothing.
The bad faith arguments are infuriating
"Party member violates rules set out by party over the primary process, loses voting rights because of it" just doesn't have the same ability to work yourself into a hysterics, does it?
Yeah, if it was a single person, I'd agree with you...
But your "party member" is the state party leaders who have no control over state law...
And the NH state government, their House is Republican, their state Senate is Republican, and their Governor is Republican...
So what the fuck was the state Democratic party going to do about NH State law in less than a year?
And why does them failing to do that mean no NH Dem gets a say in who their candidate is?
Seriously.
How does this work out that you think the state party had any say?
The party could ultimately decide to seat New Hampshire's delegates at the convention this summer, but as of now, none will be awarded in Tuesday's Democratic primary.
Yeah, sounds like you're getting mad at hypotheticals. Maybe hold off on the pitchforks.
The pulled the delegates...
Biden won...
If they reinstate the delegates, that's not better, that's worse. Because the last two primaries the party favorite comes in last and the most progressive has won NH... Canceling it to only put it back in when the moderate party favorite wins is fucked
Which I didn't think needed explained, but this thread has shown me my expectations were a lot higher than they should be
Because NH got their panties in a twist and decided that their miniscule state needs to be first? They can go fuck off.
Nope.
Because there wasn't enough time for NH to change their state law...
DNC and Biden got so mad a state wouldn't violate state law to help him in an election, they stripped the state of their say in who the candidate was. And it's a total coincidence he got his ass kicked there last primary....
But it's cool, because he legitimately is still better than trump, and even though that difference keeps shrinking, no one is allowed to complain about Biden because trump exists....
Because there wasn’t enough time for NH to change their state law
They had a year's notice. The rulemaking process began last winter.
Do you think the leaders of the state democratic party are in complete control of the laws in NH?
I'd think of all people, Biden wouldnt expect politicians to rush into anything...
Or anyone to ever change a politicians mind on how to vote.
They had adequate notice. The state cannot cling to an imagined relevancy and hold a party hostage. The legislature chose not to act and therefore their constituents don't get to participate in the Democratic Primary.
Seems pretty straightforward to me.
Seems pretty straightforward to me
Republicans say that about all kinds of crazy rationalizations
Most people who are against democracy feel like democracy isn't very important as long as their team wins in fact.
But I've found engaging with that type of people is rarely productive, regardless of what they consider their team.
You're shouting in to a screeching void, haha. These degenerate buffoons don't care, or want, the truth and figure the down vote arrow is a sword and that it actually deters you.
It turns out 30 years of dragging the Democratic party to the left lost us as many voters as we gained, and now a bunch of "Democrats" act a lot like Republicans and share the same morals....
What's crazy is if they had stayed active in the Republican party, they could have actually kept the Republicans somewhat moderate.
Instead them leaving just concentrated the crazy, and turned 1/3 of the country away from voting.
The only ones that won from Dems courting Republican voters was conservative extremists. Everyone else lost.
