Progressives should not make the same mistake that Ernst Thälmann made in 1932. The leader of the German Communist Party, Thälmann saw mainstream liberals as his enemies, and so the center and left never joined forces against the Nazis.
Why did he see mainstream liberals as his enemy?
Why did he see liberals as his enemy, motherfucker!?!?
This bit made so angry, the author tries to i come history and then blames the fucking commies. WHO APPOINTED HITLER AS CHANCELLOR YPU DUMMY? WAS IT HINDENBURG? WHO VOTED FOR IT WAS IT THE SUCDEMS OH IT WAS WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT
every other country on the planet is actually voting for trump by not immigrating to one of those 5 states and voting for the dnc candidate, it’ll be the world’s fault when they lose and to punish the non-voters immigration will be further penalised in a bipartisan bill
Pitching Minnesota to Swedes like "It's just like where you are now except with worse healthcare and more cheese and if you don't move it's a vote for the guy who would enable a genocide over the guy currently enabling a genocide"
is the only actual political party in the race, so no worries there. Democrats and Republicans are not political parties, just bourgeois fundraising apparatuses.
I haven't seen a liberal get more upset then when I tell them "don't worry I'm also not voting for Trump so actually I am voting for biden"
Then tell them by not voting you're apparently voting twice and why are they not taking full advantage of their democratic right by legally voting twice by voting for nobody.
i already held my nose and voted for biden once, a credibly accused abuser of women who turned out to later materially support not only neo-nazi militias but the literal genocide of palestinians, so i'm instead going to learn from my mistake and never vote for anyone again in america. i should have learned this lesson from voting for obama and seeing him abandon every single campaign issue people cared about.
Yup regretted voting for him the first time especially since most of his actions since being elected can basically be boiled down to "what did you expect idiot I told you I wasn't going to do anything you wanted"
Whenever I hear liberals mention a third party vote is a vote for Trump, it's like they're almost trying to say neutrality is implicit support for the status quo. Except they only apply it to voting because that's their entire framework. It's also a good example of how liberals can only see reality in terms of two teams.
Trump and his backers would undoubtedly support the complete Israeli takeover of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, and the dislocation of millions of Palestinians.
Oh that would suck if we had a president who wanted to commit genocide against Palestinians. I can't imagine what that would be like.
Despite acknowledging that it would be bad politics, Trump would almost certainly support a complete, nationwide ban on abortion and probably also endorse Christian fundamentalist demands to ban contraceptives, along with nationwide book bans. His aides are already on record calling for the creation of concentration camps for immigrants, while he has made it clear he wants to prosecute and imprison his political opponents, journalists, and other dissidents
Liberals live in a separate reality. All of this is already happening regardless of who the president is. Row v Wade was overturned under Biden and there hasn't been a federal abortion protection. Do they really think Biden in a second term will suddenly change? What the hell is this
Many of his former advisers now agree that [Trump] shouldn't be in a position to give orders to the U.S. national security apparatus. They are right. Trump poses an existential danger to the United States.
Trump is a Chinese sleeper cell confirmed. Please usher in the revolution Tongzhi Trump
The end of the article does that stupid thing comparing progressives now to how the KPD wasn't able to make a coalition to stop Hitler. Yeah except the social democrats just spent the past 20 years sabotaging communists and also they killed Rosa Luxemburg. There wasn't a whole lot of mutual trust between the communists and social democrats at that point, even when fascists were in elections. Also whenever liberals make this comparisons they always imply that the Democrats are the like the Social Democrats in 1920 Germany. Yeah, no. The Democrats are more like the DVP (German People's Party), the conservative party allied with industrialists whose main policies were promoting austerity and privatization.
I look back on my 2020 vote and it was harm reduction. PSL was leading our regional protests over abortion rights while Joe Biden let them be undermined. PSL is against genocide, the democrats can't stop funding them and starting new wars. PSL wants me to have healthcare while the democrats don't believe in COVID and don't even want to protect me against that. I'm not voting against my own interests no matter how much a liberal lies to me. I'm not voting for war or genocide no matter how much Blue MAGA hoots and hollers at the sight of more brown people dying.
The only trick is the one the devil is playing when he says vote blue no matter who. I would vote for the collapse of the empire if I wasn't just going to write in my dog this year.
These people are preaching to a choir with these articles and political Reddit posts. Most people not voting on election day don't spend their time reading about politics online. They're normies for the most part and good luck reaching them with condescending posts like this.
It's really liberating to tell libs you aren't voting for a genocide enabler and no amount of their PowerPoint slides about how everything you think is bad is actually good is going to change that.
Not being able to browbeat people into accepting a shitty situation literally removes all power from liberals.
I am very close to telling liberals I'm just going to vote for Trump. It's the only thing I can think to say to make them shut up. They already think I'm a tankie red fascist anyway
The Republicans don't engage in this behaviour. They don't say "if you don't vote, you're giving a vote to Biden!" because it's fucking absurd.
You're not getting the vote because you're a bunch of genociding white supremacists hell bent on dominating the world, for the same reason the other genociding white supremacists hell bent on dominating the world aren't getting the vote.
The Ross Perot bit is interesting if you look at it in the long term context, like, does Trump still happen without the precedent that the base will defect to third party if they don't get their way? Or does the establishment ratfuck him and tell them "vote red no matter who?"
I think we’re gonna see a lot more articles like this, moreso than in 2020. They’re not directed at us commies - we’re too small in number and they know we’re not voting for Biden no matter what. I don’t think they’re even directed at your typical white DSA-adjacent radlibs - the DNC knows they will fall in line by November.
I do think that the Dems are scared shitless about POC votes - black and Arab-American voters in particular. Recent polls have shown Biden’s support among those groups is dropping precipitously; and not just in terms of general approval/disapproval numbers. The numbers of Dem-leaning POC voters that are considering not voting or voting third party have gone way up since Oct. 7.