A reminder to all you far left and far right nutjobs that think Joe Biden has done nothing significant in office
A reminder to all you far left and far right nutjobs that think Joe Biden has done nothing significant in office
Are people on the left saying this?
The 2 things I've really not liked about biden is he
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Continued trump era boarder policies significantly harming refugees.
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Has doggedly supported israel in their current genocide campaign.
Other wise his admin has ranged from pretty good to business as usual. 1000% better than trump, but also with some glaring problems.
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If you want leftists to vote for dems, despite dems pissing on leftists at every possible chance and yelling at leftists to fall in line, I'll show you how.
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Point out that voting will never, ever, ever move the democrat party to the left. You cannot vote the party harder to the left.
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Point out that Republicans are going to remain fascists.
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Point out that voting third party is a spoiler vote and will result in fascists winning.
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Point out that the actual way to move to the left is to unionize and organize at the grassroots level, to apply bottom-up pressure on the top.
The answer is not to pretend that Biden is anything other than a Neoliberal Capitalist. Leftists will correctly point out that Biden is still a lukewarm neoliberal maintaining the status quo, and feel further alienated by being told they should love him anyways. That just encourages voter apathy.
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secured the border
What does that mean though. Concentration camps for undocumented People? Kids in cages? You think that's a good thing? People are dying in US camps, and you're presenting that as a 'haha gotcha liberals they DO kill migrants'
Fuck that.
Also genocide. Never forget that Biden is aiding and abetting a genocide. Don't fucking look away because he's your guy, motherfuckers
So I don't disagree that we need to get less chosey and start voting for the lesser evil at the very least (not even american here bu the UK also has a choice between fuckwad A and B right now) But the bar for 'extreme leftists' has now gotten so low that depending on the company simply suggesting that we shouldn't leave people to die on the street will get you classified as 'extreme leftist'
This doesn't even mention many of the infrastructure programs that help people directly - the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, American Rescue Plan Act, WIIN, WIFIA, and probably more that I don't know about. There is so much work in water lines and roads/bridges because of Biden.
Let's not forget he took over in Jan. 2021. Accelerating vaccine rollout was on his watch:
"With COVID-19 surging and vaccinations off to a slow start, President-elect Joe Biden will rapidly release most available vaccine doses to protect more people, his office said Friday, a reversal of Trump administration policies."
https://www.ajmc.com/view/a-timeline-of-covid-19-vaccine-developments-in-2021
You don't need to listen to far right nutjobs. They were never going to vote for any Democrat candidate.
You do need to listen to us far left "nutjobs" if you think you need our votes.
EDIT: Goddamn for a group that loves to call us "childish " moderates really don't appreciate being told they can't get what they want on their own and have to gasp cooperate with others.
"Low unemployment" isn't a useful metric when the minimum wage isn't enough to live on, and the implication that people should be grateful for "low unemployment" is insulting to people who work full time and still can't afford food and housing.
Its counterproductive to cite unemployment numbers when trying to rally support for current representatives, unless you can also show that wages are increasing.
Simply referring to the number of jobs that exist feels dismissive and alienating. Instead, you'd get a stronger propaganda effect by citing the number of GOOD jobs that exist - jobs that pay a living wage.
Call me when he brings out the trust busting hammer. It's the one thing that touches on most of the problems in the US.
He needs to actually stand with Unions, actually bring the economy back for the working class, actually make homes and food affordable again.
The other shit is just dressing on the cake. Voters aren't going to vote for him unless he can do that. They might vote against the other guy, but -
Jobs that don't pay
A request to the police forces
A counselor the visits once a month
Killing some brown guy in a war we're all tired of
Lifted a ban the next GOP president is just going to put back
Stopped a pipeline the next GOP president is just going to send DHS agents to guard
And protected land the next GOP president is going to unprotect
And continuing Trump's abuses of refugees, more efficiently....
Ain't gonna fucking do it. These aren't the things we care about. We want to put food on the table for our families.
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Not that those who need to read them will, but I'm just going to leave these here:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/22/american-democracy-was-never-designed-to-be-democratic
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/14/liberalism-and-fascism-partners-in-crime/
The really wack thing is everybody already knew when Trump removed criminal only focus of ICE and the holding time limitations that it would weaken the border. We already had data about how those policies improved border security from the Obama Era, but Trump still did what he did to put children in cages for many months for no fucking reason at all.
Yeah, but it's about messaging and PR. Many people perceive Trump to do better especially on economy, even though more debt is added to the national debt during his last presidency. People tend to prioritise economy more than other issues; and Biden isn't doing anything to market himself and his administration that they're do better on handling the economy.
You do know that it’s the people demanding and fighting for those things right? Biden only did the minimum while ignoring the peoples actual needs. He answers to his sponsors and his sponsors only. He spent billions on Ukraine and Israel while ignoring the millions of Americans who are worse off now than they were 4-8 years ago. No one is denying what he did. We’re saying it wasn’t enough.
"far left nutjobs think joe biden hasn't done anything, check out this list of things that are either fake, symbolic, or terrible"
The problem is that centrists seem to actually think the following are 'good' things:
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Enabling and supplying Israeli genocide
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Bombing Yemen for trying to interfere with the Israeli genocide
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Prevented negotiations in Ukraine
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Over a million COVID deaths
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Most active border concentration camps ever
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More jobs than ever guys! Biden fixed the economy!!! And the Housing crisis. And student loans!
Joe being an adult and doing the Job isn't as interesting as trumps jackassery,it seems. The hells wrong with us?
Question: If I don't think he's the absolute perfect being (as many on the far right view Trump) does that make me a far left nutjob? Does critiquing him make me an extremist? Is me saying he could and should have done more saying he did nothing significant in office?
The problem is you're making it a black and white issue. The only people who that are those far-flung nutjobs you critique.
I mean, these are all excellent policies. But I feel like they put the policy cart before the horse as they don't address any of the major issues this country has been facing for decades.
Healthcare? Still worse from Trump. But sure people aren't dying from rationing insulin they can't afford.
Military Spending? Worth it to protect Ukraine, but why are we increasing an already inflated budget we can't afford?
Minimum wage increasing for the first time in decades? How about student debt is forgiven for only the most vulnerable.
Public education? Higher education? Inflation? Job security? Voting rights? Abortion? Expanding the Supreme Court?
I'm not saying this administration hasn't done good for this country. And I'm certainly not saying the alternative would be better.
What I'm saying is that this countries house is on fire and you want us to clap when all the Biden admin has done is turn on the garden hose.
Sure we're "moving in the right direction" - but for the last 20 years the US keeps moving backwards much faster than it can move forward. Building this country back brick by brick doesn't do much when it keeps getting bulldozed.
If the Biden admin wants people to vote for them in droves, pulling the corporate hand out of their ass to enact some immediate and much needed changes through executive orders would be a fucking slam dunk. We all watched as the previous administration used the "unitary executive" theory to pass a bunch of horseshit we all now have to deal with, but when it comes to actual progress this admin doesn't want to take that path when it's the only one that will lead to actual long term systemic change.
Stopped Keystone Pipeline Expansion
Ok, this is decent. But then we are still drilling and pumping oil and gas at record setting levels, more-so than any other nation on earth. Oil and Gas industry is still heavily subsidized, while subsidies and benefits for renewables have been taken away.
And to top it off, the absolute gimme of Joe Manchin’s Mountain Valley Pipeline through Appalachia.
So basically, as soon as he did the bare minimum with Keystone to pacify the vocal environmental activists on that project, he went right back to business as usual, and then goes beyond by rewarding Manchin with a new pipeline that violates every environmental safety standard imaginable in a mad rush to just “get it done”.
I’m going to have to chalk this up as a net negative for Genocide Joe.
Such gish gallop. I don’t have all day, but a few:
- Those 20 million poor Americans are still on the hook for their student loan debts.
- The proxy war with Russia is still ongoing, Russia was never planning to and still has no plans to roll through Europe, and Genocide Joe’s administration is foaming at the mouth to ramp up the cold war with China.
- “Secured our borders”
Hol' up, we ended no knock raids?
I love that man, Biden has been such a stud.
Call me when he brings out the trust busting hammer. It's the one thing that touches on most of the problems in the US.
He needs to actually stand with Unions, actually bring the economy back for the working class, actually make homes and food affordable again.
The other shit is just dressing on the cake. Voters aren't going to vote for him unless he can do that. They might vote against the other guy, but -
Jobs that don't pay
A request to the police forces
A counselor the visits once a month
Killing some brown guy in a war we're all tired of
Lifted a ban the next GOP president is just going to put back
Stopped a pipeline the next GOP president is just going to send DHS agents to guard
And protected land the next GOP president is going to unprotect
And continuing Trump's abuses of refugees, more efficiently....
Ain't gonna fucking do it. These aren't the things we care about. We want to put food on the table for our families.
Weird, I don't see "Record Oil Production" up there. More oil pumped than any country in history! Wild.
mostly anecdotal
Anytime someone whines about lemmy not getting widespread adoption I'm linking this comment section. Cesspool of a community. Go touch some fucking grass lol.
And 99% of these are being skirted by local governments with no penalty because Joe is a senile geriatric whose accomplishments exist only on paper. The Biden administration has done literally nothing to stop a murderous Neo-Nazi movement from gaining millions of followers in the country. I voted for him in 2020 with gritted teeth and I don't think there's anything he could do to earn my vote again
Lowest employment rate, not lowest unemployment rate.
https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-labor-force-participation-rate.htm
You have to go back to prior to women entering the workforce in droves or March 2020 to find numbers as bad.
