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At least 33 Canadian churches have burned to the ground since May 2021. Only 2 were accidents

www.cbc.ca /news/canada/edmonton/church-fires-canada-1.7055838

CBC News has examined 33 Canadian churches that burned to the ground since May 2021. Just two were ruled accidental.

Investigators have determined that 24 were deliberately set while others are still under investigation. Some researchers and community leaders suggest Canada's colonial history and recent discoveries of potential burial sites at former residential schools may have lit the fuse.

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At least 33 Canadian churches have burned to the ground since May 2021. Only 2 were accidents

www.cbc.ca /news/canada/edmonton/church-fires-canada-1.7055838

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- Christianity might not be very useful and a waste of money, but we shouldn't defend dumbasses that go around burning buildings for fun.
  
  They're doing it because of the genocide but ok
- The vast majority of churches are positive influences on their community and don't deserve to be incinerated. I'm saying this as an atheist.
  Edit: I guess I should specify my experience is with Canadian churches. I've been to several near me over the years, I can remember a few that even had pride flags in the windows.
  
  Hmm are you thinking of libraries? Because libraries and books should definitely not be burned and are a monumentally positive influence on their communities. I would highly recommend checking one out near you and researching the historical relationship between the indigenous people and "the church" so you better understand the context here.
  
  [Citation Needed]
  
  I understand why you say that, and I'd like to believe it too. I still wish there were stats on that...
  Especially considering they don't pay taxes. If the value of their social efforts don't reach the amount of money they'd be paying in taxes, then they're actually a net negative.
  
  Make no mistake, religion has no place in our society. I don’t give a shit how they appear on the outside, they are hateful places that harbor hateful people. They can all get fucked.
  I’m saying this as an atheist.
  
  As one of the over 700,000 children that was sexual abused as a child at church, you are clearly living in a fantasy world.
  Also, as one Canadian to another; go kick rocks, bud.
  
  I’ve lived on the same block as two Canadian churches and can assure you they are terrible neighbours and a terrible influence.
  Not hating gay people should be the default; no one gets points for that.
  
  [X] Doubt
  
  I won't argue with any of the points you've tried to make. I'll simply pointy out that you're all over this thread, apologizing for churches. All fucking over.
  
  if it was not for a church near me i would have starved to death. in the usa

What do you call 24 burned down churches?
A good start.
- How many children do you think were buried under these churches? Didn’t it all start when the one was discovered to have remains?
  
  They don't generally bury people under churches and I doubt they were breaking through and digging up church floors to hide the dead children when there's soft dirt right next to the church. But they were usually buried outside the residential school anyway.
  
  I am not the person to speak with any authority on the subject but you should really look into the history of white imperialism in Canada. It's as awful as it sounds.
- But what about all the missed taxes?
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Z8UT9VgzM
- What an awful thing to say
  
  HARD disagree. Churches are a blight -- a failure of government and community.

Treat indigenous people like shit for centuries? Don't be surprised if one day they decide to fight back.

2 were accidents, so 31 were.... Acts of God?
I'll see myself out.

When enough people stop believing in religion, churches will automatically self combust. Apparently Canada is doing well!

Maybe they should look under residential schools for the culprit, I’m sure they’re hiding down there wink wink.

"recent discoveries of potential burial sites at former residential schools may have lit the fuse" npi

On a different topic: how's the Norwegian-inspired black metal scene in Canada doing these days?

I got banned from Reddit for commenting this on a similar post:
"MOAR"
- Yep! It's good work! We should burn the rest. All of them. Religion is cancer.
  
  Seems like a good way to radicalize religious folks; surely wanton cruelty to those you disagree with has no downsides
  Like I get hating religion, there's a lot there that's understandable to hate, but its worth considering if being vindictive towards people who's worldview you don't like is actually a practical strategy to improving the world. You're just gonna get new churches that are more dogmatic and convinced of their 'righteousness in the face of unknown evil'
  Taking your anger out on the world is actually kinda bad for the world, who could have guessed