unironically the least problematic Hasidic community activity

In the backlash to the antisemitic stuff that came out of this from twitter I saw people talk about knowing antizionist hasidic Jews or having their gender identity accepted in the community.

But am I going crazy or wasn't it literally like last year that the NYT published a story about how the New York hasidic community in particular has gender segregated schools that produce single digit percentages of basic English and math literacy, and employs corporal punishment?

Edit: Late 2022 it was published, turns out.

This shit is also why the fucking antisemitic abuse tunnels conspiracy stuff is so destructive, because in any other scenario it would be a completely normal conclusion to think that a deliberately closed off community that deprives children of the skills and knowledge to operate outside it, is inherently at a huge risk of any kind of abuse going unreported and victims being left with no way out.

But thats within the community, and not this fucking blood libel shit that reactionary freaks like jackson hinkle are peddling about pedo tunnels.

pedo tunnels

really telling on themselves if this is the first thing that comes to their d*generate minds

Normalize 👏 making 👏 tunnels 👏 under 👏 your 👏 enemies

I am always on the side of the guys with the big tunnel network.

Underground railroad, Mexican migrants, Hector Zeroni & Stanley Yelnats, Hamas

Many such cases
- As a kid I once thought the Underground Railroad was a literal Civil War era subway system. Like, for only a few minutes, but how cool would that be?
- Viet Cong, too.
Careful, this also includes Elon Musk
- it's guys, plural, you can hate one of them

When I first heard about the tunnels I got no context with it and thought maybe they were building an underground access to another building (and as a guy who works in the Middle East, nothing beats underground access to other buildings during Summer, let me tell ya), but then I went on twitter and I'm reading some of the weirdest blood libel stuff.

I'm not gonna shed any tears for this particular group though, as there's an anti-zionist twitter group that explained this group's ties to Israel; apparently they're both anti-zionist but pro-Israel, in that they detest that Israel is secular but still support them because they want a Jewish state (religiously Jewish that is; they don't merely want a state of Jewish people). They've held meetings with multiple Israeli prime ministers including Benjamin Netanyahu (https://twitter.com/TorahJudaism/status/1744728504829428196).

From my understanding, at the core it seems to be as simple as the tunnels were built to facilitate the illegal expansion of the synagogues space, with a whole bunch of strange internal hasidic sectarianism involved on top of that to make it sound more complex and much more bizarre than it probably actually is, those involved being hasidic of course makes it inherently wacky for much of the online world.
- The AP articles says some folks believe a legendary leader who served for like 4 decades and died 3 is still alive and wanted the expansion??
- no , asfar as I understand , they digged towards the woman quaters because teenagers are teenagers , then the vocel police arrived
Telegram is going off on a bunch of lurid CSA details that I’m pretty sure are 95% false
So they are even more fashy religious zealots similar to deep south evangelists ?
- no, they're much more isolationist than evangelicals. their religious conservatism is largely directed at their own families. similar problems with racism but a very different phenomenon otherwise.
- more like the Amish or Mennonites but not rural; they isolate themselves far more than most religious conservatives

If a week ago you posted that members hasidic community were literally undermining new york infrastructure in order to build a sewer yeshiva close to their proclaimed messiah, you would have been the twitter main character of the day for your nonsensical antisemitism.

I call and the worms answer

Tunnels are so hot rn, but it's too late to really get in on the trend.

What you really should do is get in on the next big thing before it blows up: Sinking building foundations.

Sounds like they were on their way to that, intentionally or not.

I still dont understand what these tunnels were supposed to be for but the memes are gold.

To my best understanding it seems to have mainly been an illegal expansion to a synagogue that had tunnels as just like a practical thing for the illegal construction, I'm not sure if they applied and got rejected before beginning the dig or if they just sort of decided to expand without caring about planning or regulations entirely but that seems to be the basic situation that I have gathered, I think the new space was meant to be a classroom or something.

Edit: Reading more it sounds like it was just an illegal expansion in general for more space for the synagogue, and also that theres an internal conflict involved between the main hasidic movement/group and a smaller sect within that, the smaller sect being the one to begin the illegal expansion. The smaller sect apparently believes that the former rabbi of the synagogue, who passed away in 1994, actually was the Jewish messiah, is not in fact dead(might be a wacky minority belief in the sect), and the expansion of the synagogue is a part of his wishes for the movement?

Unclear if the main movement also wished to expand the synagogue but legally, or if the smaller sect just decided to do it completely on their own.
- I used to date a Jewish woman from NYC and she told me there's all kinds of weird ass Jewish sects in the city. Like you'll have some synagogue founded by immigrants from one Jewish village in Hungary who believe some rabbi who died in 1922 was the messiah and they'll randomly get in fist fights with guys from some synagogue from Moldova.
- theres an internal conflict involved between the main hasidic movement/group and a smaller sect within that, the smaller sect being the one to begin the illegal expansion
  
  Bloodborne is a documentary
- If I understand it correctly, the breakaway messianic sect claims the building that they were tunneling towards (which is owned by the other sect), and they made the tunnel to either break in or at least get closer to what they consider a holy site.
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if the Hasidim want to leave behind the coercive patriarchy and abusive school system and focus on the tunnels i think that is a net win for everybody

What strikes me is the way some people talk about Hasidism with the attitude of "those are the backwards jews". Obviously it's awful online, but that leaks through in NYC based media.

99% of discourse on "religious" people is cursed

it's either atheists denouncing everything about them (this has always been a minority)
or reactionaries praising everything under the guise of claimed contrarianism

i've seen headlines about this and i still don't know what exactly happened but whatever it is i've surmised that it's cool and funny. fuck the MTA we're extending the subway system ourselves.

"Apparently it was members of a breakaway Messianic sect trying to get access to a building owned by the mainstream of the Chabad movement, but claimed by the breakaway sect."

That's what someone from this site said
- They don’t know I’m going to get access to a building owned by the mainstream of the Chabad movement.

I've been seeing SO much antisemitism today on other sites surrounding whatever is going on, and holy shit I want everyone who posts shit like that to go straight to the re-education camps. It's been fucking enraging

Was going to say the first thing people are going to jump to are blood libel accusations that the jews are doing child sacrifices in the tunnels or some other q pilled shit.