Genius at work

Fysa, humans are born with moveable skull plates to accommodate brain growth and development after birth. You learn a lot being an active participant in parenting children.

Also brain size correlates weakly with intelligence scores, but is not a major factor.

Incorrect, my mother has the largest vagina. Therefore I am the smartest.
- Calm down Dwight
- So... Can we collectively infer from that sentence you were birthed or dropped?
  Giraffes do the last and it works but unless you present your Giraffe Card, I'm going to default count you as human and being dropped head first into the floor is not good for human newborns.
  But if you are indeed a giraffe: how do you type?
Obsessing over brain size and the hip width of women is a big eugenics / white supremacist thing... the kind of thing the nazis were really into... what a surprise to see Musk spouting this kind of bullshit
You learn a lot being an active participant in parenting children.
There's the issue, like with most of his ventures, Elon outsources all the actual work.
To be clear, Elon is the idiot in that regard here, and the person he’s replying to, not myself. I understand that perfectly well. If you’re providing this info to the bigots on lemmy at large, good on you then.
And it’s not so much “moveable bones” as it is bones that are still soft and connected by soft fascial sutures called fontanels that harden over time, most likely to make birth easier and to accommodate significant growth for the first stages.
- Agreed. Yes, this isn't aimed at you just anyone who may not know about the subject.
From my understanding, the ratio of brain size to body size is a much better way of getting a general estimate for intelligence.
- I think general intelligence estimation mostly ends up being flawed ethically.
- Only cross species not within a single species.

This instantly made my uterus shrivel up like a dried raisin.

This fucking guy

Wow, at least it's better than the "people who had c-sections never gave birth so are not mothers" belief. Still a ridiculous belief, though.

… what?
That’s actually an argument circulating around out there? Just when I thought the debate couldn’t get any lower.
- MacDuff's mum will be fuckin ragin when she hears
- Yeah, as per usual it's hard to tell when people are just trolling or if it's just completely made up, but I've seen it from screenshots of some particularly deranged "moms only" Facebook groups.
- Yeah this is something that has been circulating right wing women's groups, conservative mom fora, trad wife fora, trad/conservative family channels on YT, etc.
C-section babies can say they were considered important enough to be extracted. (with implications to covert operations)
Not sure if it is actually better. They both seem to be equally horrible and incredibly stupid takes to me.
- Hehe, perhaps. To me one seems to have more malice in it than the other, but I could just need some time to really warm up to despising Musk's statement equally.

That was a trainwreck to read. In slow motion.

Is this him trying to bury this in the search engine results?

In a new Musk biography by Walter Isaacson, which goes into detail about Musk’s life, his relationships, and his children, Grimes reveals that Musk took a photo of her while she was having a C-section for their baby X Æ A-Xii and circulated it without her consent.

More likely just him being stupid and bringing it up in search results more due to some Streisand effect. But your theory is also entirely plausible with him.

Phrenology again?

My god, who let him have the controls?

I... I can't even begin.

It really blows my mind how dumb this guy is. Like holy shit

"Historically" you say?... jfc this guy is a fucking idiot.

He says a four syllable word and his followers lap it up.

Quality nonsense with a grain, the merest speck, of truth.

I’m 14 and just had this shower thought?

Who is Linda Yaccarino?

I don't see what's wrong with Musk's tweet, other than it's by Musk so I'm sure I'm missing some nefarious context.

Any baby born by C-section because their head is too big will move the average up, since they aren't dying during childbirth

I get vibes of racist and debunked phrenology.
You not seeing what's wrong with his tweet means that you already accepted that it was a factually true statement, which it is not. Humanity wasn't been held down by small-brained babies until the advent of the C-section.
Secondarily, what point do you think he's trying to make? I'd bet that it's about humanity being more intelligent now that these giant-brained babies have an alternative escape route. I'd bet all his ill-gained wealth that he was a C-section and he's also bragging about how intelligent he must be. One commenter also already mentioned that Musk is replying to a eugenics-pusher.
It's never a good idea to read something that lacks and requires credible citation and say, "I guess that sounds right." Intentionally or not, you often add that to some folder of "true stuff I read" in your brain and start repeating it back as fact when relevant.
Oh, and Musk is a vile fuckwit.
- as we all know, of course, the size of one's head is directly proportional to IQ. Intelligence is famously possible to objectively measure, especially as a single quantity, and IQ is a highly accurate, not at all pseudoscientific measurement of it. So is craniometry.
- Humanity wasn't been held down by small-brained babies until the advent of the C-section
  What in the hell are you talking about? Do you think Cephalopelvic Disproportion is a fake condition made up by Big Pharma? https://americanpregnancy.org/healthy-pregnancy/labor-and-birth/cephalopelvic-disproportion/
  You seem to think that because Musk is a bad person that he is always lying. I even said in my comment that he was likely saying that for nefarious reasons, but I'm not going to deny evolution just because someone I dislike also talks about it.
You mean other than being completely factually wrong?
Brain size hasn’t been historically limited by the size of the birth canal, it doesn’t work like that, most growth takes place after birth. The fact that some children develop faster in the womb and require a c-section doesn’t make it true either.
The context is that he’s replying to a known pusher of eugenics. It’s not completely apparent in the post Elon replied to, but if you see enough of that user’s posts it becomes apparent.
edit: it’s also worth mentioning that sometimes a larger child is simply due to genetics from one parent. I know many very tall, large people whose mothers are very tiny, petite people. It could be considered a miracle when the birth happens naturally in those cases, but doesn’t have anything to do with the child having a larger brain. They’re just generally relatively larger than their mother.
- My brother is a 6ft+ white man who married a Mexican woman that's barely 5ft tall. She wanted to do a natural birth for her first son, but he was over 9lbs and was actually tearing her apart. The pain killers weren't working, she had a bunch of infections, they had to take a vacuum to get him out and she didn't get better for at least a year.
  She had another two sons with him, the second was 9.6 lbs. The third was 8lbs. They were both c-cection because she wasn't going to go through natural births again.
  (And yes, all 3 boys are much taller than their peers, they all inherited my brother's tall gene the oldest is about 15 now and nearing 6ft)
  They are normal kids despite their sizes.
- Also, our heads are still able to squish together as babies, the bones only solidifying after birth, precisely to get past the birth canal.
- Also, brain volume mostly doesn't correlate to intelligence
- If brain size means nothing, then why have humans evolved larger brains over time?
  Wouldn't the increased risk of death during birth for large heads lead to a reduction in brain size over time?
  And lastly, why are you being a dick about it?