Chinese scientists claim to have discovered a new quantum submarine detection technology that's an order of magnitude more precise and can fit on small drones.
Chinese scientists claim to have discovered a new quantum submarine detection technology that's an order of magnitude more precise and can fit on small drones.
Research team’s simplified design increases performance by an order of magnitude, while making it affordable enough for wider use.
If that's true then the last advantage of US Navy, their huge nuclear submarine fleet, would be in great danger.
Indeed, also the whole AUKUS thing that's estimated at a third of a trillion dollars at the start, and reaching the working capacity of “blocking China’s sea with submarines” by 2040, turns out to be stillborn. By 2040, these ancient huge submarines will be easily detectable, and will be destroyed by a swarm of underwater drones.
This is a similar situation to how vulnerable tanks are to FPV drones. US clearly didn't consider the impact this sort of tech will have on the future of warfare, and doesn't have any clear response at the moment. Funny part is that US is now starting to fall behind technologically, so they don't have symmetric capability to detect Chinese or Russian subs.
As recent years have demonstrated time and time again, the USA no longer has the technological or industrial capability to meet the demands of 21st century warfare. Even if they decided to stop rigging their own wargames and actually learn some hard lessons, I just don't think the material conditions exist for them to ever actually "catch up" now. If a shooting war erupts between China and the USA in the next decade, the USA is going to be learning a lot of WWI-style lessons about how new technology has transformed the battlefield.
Indeed, also the whole AUKUS thing that's estimated at a third of a trillion dollars at the start, and reaching the working capacity of “blocking China’s sea with submarines” by 2040, turns out to be stillborn.
Only if the purpose of the fleet is to win wars. That's 16 years of purchase orders. Look at the F-35.
I don't actually know anything about AUKUS but I don't see the problem.
Now that's a thought that really warms my heart.
Aren't there 11 US aircraft carriers each of which can topple a small nation? IDK if id say nuclear subs are the last advantage lol
Yes, they can topple small nations (though not really, it never actually happened), that's what they have been designed to do, to work as the XX-XXI century gunboat diplomacy, not to actually strike alone but to make terror threats of destruction.
But their usefulness is currently around zero in a peer combat against Russia or China, hypersonic missiles are hard counter for them. And note that US is even reluctant to post them nearby Iran because Iran also have some dangerous to them weapons like supercavitating torpedoes.
US Navy surface fleet is therefore pretty vulnerable to PLAN which got close to force parity in defence scenario, but nearly all PLAN ships are more modern and will have advantage in defense because being on the other side of Pacific.
So the only real and big advantage US Navy have is their submarine fleet which is much bigger than Chinese and make exclusively of nuclear submarines which in itself is advantage especially on area as huge as Pacific. No wonder China put some serious money and brainpower to this research.
Imagine a swarm of these
I imagine that's precisely the idea there. A sub is fairly limited in the amount of torpedoes it can carry, so a big enough swarm of drones becomes literally impossible to stop.
Attached to explosive drones popping US subs? Sounds awesome.
"But it's cheap! That means it's bad! They need to give at least several billion to the CEOs of big military development companies before a sonar system can work, everybody knows that!"
I still love this Sullivan talk where he admits that the whole free market bullshit they’ve been promoting can’t actually compete with what China is doing https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2023/04/27/remarks-by-national-security-advisor-jake-sullivan-on-renewing-american-economic-leadership-at-the-brookings-institution/
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Is there a non-paywalled article by chance?
oh here https://archive.ph/vUp2w
For anyone interested in paying 3 RMB to read the Chinese paper found in 2023 Issue 10 of Cryogenics & Superconductivity: https://doi.org/10.16711/j.1001-7100.2023.10.003
Hope they give it to orcas
So would it be possible to make a small, explosive laden drone that's virtually undetectable by the US subs, put this tech in it, and just start popping their sub fleet?