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https://twitter.com/rabbitfordinner/status/1740609135044083919
this mf thinks we still have medieval walled cities, like dude, you can literally just... walk out of the city. I mean, yeah, you can indeed disrupt logistics, but there's a pretty big gap between "trucks can't get in to deliver supplies" and "entire population is trapped inside of the city". Also railway transport isn't real I guess
also love the idea of completely destroying supply routes into the city with... backhoes and gravel. I guess city folk don't have any construction equipment of their own to clear and repair their roads. Also I guess the roads are just going to be conveniently completely empty for however many hours it takes you to block them, because, uh...
do an area study 
The idea that white rural chuds completely control the food supply is laughable. The people who are actually growing and picking the food are the same ones chuds cry about “invading the US”.
Food Production is pretty much thought of as a transient property where if you live near it, it means somehow you're part of it. Pretty global trend, too, real odd shit. Whenever I press these people on it it's usually revealed they think of themselves as infrastructure providers for actual farmers by way of making sure there is enough money to maintain roads or keep a supermarket afloat or something
The obvious solution is for urban groups to offer material support to rural farm workers to "encourage" a "change in management" from the current rural farm owners to rural farm worker co-ops.
Migrant workers are just secret white guys. When the civil war starts, they just rip off their mask and reveal themselves as aryans in hiding
what is hydroponics for 500, alex
"I'm hungry Papa, why can't we leave the city to try to find some food in the country side ?"
"The roads, son... they have done a number on them. So many potholes. We are doomed."
"But can't we just wal..."
"POTHOLES, son. It's hopeless. Time to eat the neighbours"
city folks drive factory lifted SUVs nowadays so potholes won't even stop anyone
This guy sat in traffic during rush hour one time and decided he could do a Bigger Than 9-11 by spilling some dirt onto I-45
He kind of has a point in the carbrained sense where the only transportation method is car. Not in the civil war style scenario but otherwise you'd need surprisingly few people to basically throw an entire cities car transportation network into a multi day gridlock
you'd need surprisingly few people to basically throw an entire cities car transportation network into a multi day gridlock
Back in 2006 some students from Georgia Tech shut down Atlanta for 12 hours by driving the speed limit, side-by-side, around the circular I-285 Atlanta bypass during rush hour. Got traffic to snake all the way around the circle and form a car ouroborous. They tried to charge the kids with conspiracy & domestic terrorism & shit at first, because 2006, but most they could get them for was obstruction of traffic.
So yeah, proof of concept at least.
This is my favorite take. Literally living in looney tunes world. I feel like this would be a felix bit. You’d think for a people who have their entire lives revolve around cars, they’d have a better understanding of how roads work
I have heard US infrastructure is terrible like this, with most cities only have one or two major ways out, but the key there is major. The major roads can get destroyed, but there are dozens and potentially hundreds of others. and if a road gets blocked, it could always...get cleared? Cities tend to have a lot of construction equipment around, or so I hear.
Even if we accept his ludicrous proposition as fact, he's forgetting that many cities have literal airports in the city limits. I suppose you could "gravel off" the runways, but how are you gonna get into the city if you just walled it off, stupid??
Incidentally, remember the anti-vaxx trucker rally where a bunch of white rural chuds with big machinery talked like they were gonna run down DC, but just drove around the beltway for 6 hours getting middle fingers and then left?
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Classic "behold my brilliant plan that doesn't even anticipate the first reaction from the other side"
"yeah, so, they're gonna try to bring a tractor up here to dig up the roads or whatever. your job is to shoot anyone in a tractor approaching from that direction. Don't worry too much about it, though. We've got a concrete plant ready to fill a truck and patch the hole in less than 3 hours. This supply line is pretty important so we're not going to just throw up our hands and give up due to a little bit of infrastructure damage."
Blocking the only way into Washington DCi'm gonna keep banging this drum:
If your food primarily comes from a grocery store, you live in a city.
"But we drive two hours to the grocery store, we're rural!"
Still go to the grocery, though. Nearly two centuries of industrialization has uprooted the systems and relationships of rural life, replacing it with urbanized market relations and the same dependency to industrially processed foodstuffs. In the United States today, there is not so much an "urban/rural" divide as there is a sliding scale of high-to-(very, very)low urban density. Pockets of rural life still exist, but they are the dwindling exception. By and large, our food comes in square plastic packages and we all pump petroleum to get to it. Some of us just go through more petrol in the process.
As for this tweet, there's a decent chance Wes here has mistaken their suburban satellite for a genuinely remote (but still undeniably urbanized) small town.
no bro I am extremely self-reliant and independent as I drive my Mexican-made "US" pick-up truck down the highway subsidized by folks in blue states/cities, burning oil from the middle-east to buy food harvested by migrant workers and shipped from around the world at the local sam's club. I am a rock, bro, I am an island unto myself
Sorry, my pathfinding does not register non-road paths.
Coastal cities have infinite ways to leave if you have ships
What if they dump boulders in the ocean though did you think of that? Fucking lib brain
Then we launch from the new harbor you just built
dude has never taken the scenic route a single time in his entire life
Mfer literally needs to park his car and take a stroll
isn’t this the plot to the tom hardy batman movie
Yes but at least in that movie Gotham is an island and the bridges and tunnels were blown up or blockaded
Also the NYPD/army were shooting anyone who tried to escape.
yes, but for the opposite reason
Me when some random erects a 5 foot wall of gravel and wet concrete at the end of my block (I have literally never heard of a hammer)
lmao dude so rural he doesn't even know cities are so big they have multiple exits per mile.
Gotta appreciate dude just consistently doubling down saying that redneck snipers will be shooting at anyone who goes to clear the roads.
my dude really thinks every town just has two roads with a four way stop
Doing wonders for my thesis that anyone who starts a reply with "Ehhh," is about to say some dumb shit laden with unexamined ideology
Tbf, some ablebodied cagers can't even comprehend walking between buildings without getting in their car first.
Also the idea that the single dividing line in the civil war will be "lives in city limits" and not like...expressed support for roving proud boys and terrorist attacks or support for national guard crackdowns lmao. As if the city would have exactly zero loyalist citizens.
And also, what's the plan then? Genocide the cities and then just like go back to farming?
IIRC Greek city states were known for periodically terrorizing the surrounding countryside and just pillaging all their shit. Realistically speaking if the divide was arbitrarily Rural/Urban the NYPD (which is the size of a small country's army and probably just as well armed b/c we live in a clown country) could probably occupy most of upstate New York.
8 Lane Freeway. VS. A Back Hoe! Who would win? You decide! Epic Redneck Battles of History!
There's a point in San Diego where the freeway going South has 13 lanes. The notion that you could shutdown a city with a dump truck is really damn stupid. Sure maybe in some red state 3rd rate city with 80k people but not most places.
Yeah that dude must come from a one stop light town. My city isn't huge but we still have like 4 main roads that are all 4-6 lanes. And even if his fantasy of dumping a bunch of dirt came to fruition, it wouldn't matter because everyone has listed trucks anyway. He's just crating a power fantasy for all the urban cowboys here rofl.
The dude is kind of in the right. Most cities have a select few main "arteries" of trafic which people move in by - There'll be a few highways, some raillines and some rivers. A dedicated group could probably shut down most of those inlets, provided there's no one to stop them. You would still be able to drive to and fro the city though, just not in large convoys or in the direct passageway.
But like... Sieges were dificult in the middle ages, and cities haven't gotten smaller since then.Look, I crossed out 5 highways on Google maps! they're screwed! Oh those lighter lines? ignore those, I don't believe in those. If I park my dump truck right in the middle of the highway, nobody could possibly drive around it. And they can't repair the roads either. We have the monopoly on heavy equipment. Everybody knows cities never have construction ever.
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Half the city drives off road vehicles anyway, so uh, lol
Placing hot apple pies in key areas so drivers float from cars via smell floating, causing a 1,400 car wreck to shut down an interstate
This sounds like a really stupid concept when applied to California, which produces the most food in the US.
Sounds like a really stupid concept in general.
You're just going to siege a city while ignoring the other cities nearby?
Cities aren't isolated.
All you gotta do is stand on the capital for 50 seconds, then you control the entire state, it’s government, military, and treasury.
I like when people give examples where weather made it hard to get to work as of that's equivalent to being under siege.
Don't be too harsh on them, there's such things as narrow alleyways and roads, plus they probably haven't left their gated community so I guess they assume this projects to daily life...
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What happened to the 10 shows that if you get past all the corruption apparently infrastructure can be fixed quickly.
Long term national strategy: starve out anyone with an education
Least car-brained American. If we destroy the interstates, then it will be physically impossible to leave the cities lmao. TBF, our car dependency is insane, but there's been really cool case studies where major highways got demolished and urban traffic actually got better, not worse.