Younger Americans are friendlier to China
Younger Americans are friendlier to China
They are much less likely to see the country as an enemy than their parents
Propaganda works.
What's funny is I can't tell if you're talking about younger Americans refusing to hate China or older Americans chanting "China Bad!"
refusing to hate
Lmao
Western propaganda clearly isn't working on young people.
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No CPC ever sold off my future to fund forever wars
Younger people increasingly get their news from social media, and they're exposed to a more diverse set of news. Meanwhile, older people tend to primarily get their news from traditional media.
There's a similar trend with support of Israel and Palestine https://www.axios.com/2023/10/26/generational-divide-on-the-israel-hamas-war
This shows just how propagandized traditional media is in the west.
Also good to remember that digital media can be just as propogandized if you interact with it at a base level. Shopping around for a wide breadth of sources and opinions should be viewed as standard requirement for forming a more accurate sense of world events.
Completely agree, and I think it's really valuable to see how events are being covered in different parts of the world.
The clash of clans
Social media dominantly uses algorithms that fine-tune user feeds according to what they think will lead to highest engagement and end up becoming personalized echo chambers. They provide the exact opposite of "a more diverse set of news".
Even with the algorithms tuning people's feeds the diversity of information and views online is very clearly far higher than it is in traditional media where editors decide what content is published, and how it's framed. You're also using a platform that doesn't use any algorithms to mess with the feed to write all this.
This kinda looks like a bad poll. The wording seems to setup a bad choice of extremes. The respondent has to either choose "friendly" or "an enemy". But the relationship between the US and China is a much more complex thing. The US and China are certainly in competition in a number of areas, economically and geopolitically. The induction of China to the WTO in 2001 impacted the US's manufacturing sector negatively (see: https://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-9/forty-years-of-falling-manufacturing-employment.htm). The US and China are at odds over the fate of Taiwan. But, in spite of all that, the US and China have deep trade links which benefit both countries greatly. And both countries are likely better off than they would be without the other. Global trade is generally positive for the economies involved, though global trade can also fuck individuals inside each economy, including driving wealth concentration and harming the economically disadvantaged and people whose skills don't align well with the industries their country is focused on.
Trying to boil US-China relations down to either Friendly or "Enemy" misses a lot of the nuance and may mean people aren't giving an accurate picture of how they view China.
Those options seem fine for a poll imo. If you ask the same question to older demographics and more people pick "enemy", then isn't the conclusion in the headline valid?
A lot of nuance will be missed without some gradation between "I <3 China" and "Down with Pooh!" For example, if we added "Slightly favorable", "Neutral", and "Slightly unfavorable" we would begin to see just how favorable younger generations are. Rather than presume there is a deep divide on trade policy, if two bars are almost equal, we may see they are largely neutral. Similarly we could see just how favorable their views of TikTok really are by looking at the spread between neutral to "I <3 China!"
I know what you're saying, but it's still a shitty poll. I think people in the past were way looser with the word enemy. Everyone was an enemy, the Russians, communism, drugs, immigrants poverty... everything was a fucking enemy that needed a war.
So, even though just as many people might distrust China the language has changed and we wouldn't call them "enemy".
The Chinese government is authoritarian, evil and awful but I still wouldn't call China an "enemy". Because life isn't black and white, and once you call somone an enemy you've shut off your brain and nothing good will come out of it.
The issue is that your reducing a multivariable spectra to a single binary. That kind of data compression destroys a massive amount of valuable data, and alot of nuance along with it.
I'm neither a friend nor an enemy to most people in the world.
But when it comes to orgs, I'm an enemy of most od them, and definitely an enemy of every State.
I visit China frequently for work and feel that the impression most older Americans have of China is incredibly out of touch. The traditional media portrayal of the country is definitely a part of this. Yes, it's certainly an authoritarian state, but this doesn't change whether the people are nice or what they want in life.
I've been once for work. Didn't have an issue with anyone there. I live in Australia now and a few of my friends are Chinese. In fact, I've had 2 Chinese really good friends / best friends
None of them agree with the government at all
Isn't it a general trend that younger people, on average, are less xenophobic / racist / bigoted than the previous generation? I also remember reading somewhere that younger Chinese people are friendlier to Japan, South Korea and the US than their parents.
I cannot view the article but from the graph it seems "young" means those aged 18-44. They should have been more granular here because variations within this range would have been interesting to see as well.
My company has an office in China and I've been there many many times.
Chinese people are like all other people - same needs, same hopes and dreams, same fears, same drivers. In the city where our office is located, they are extremely hard working and want to ensure a better future for their family. Just like most American cities.
Their city is very high tech, moreso than many American cities because they skipped a lot of legacy technology.
They don't necessarily subscribe to the same moral/value system as Americans, for example they often see copying each other's ideas as a compliment whereas Americans see it as stealing. Kind of like - if it's possible to copy, then it's fair game - so don't make it possible if you don't want it copied. Perhaps that drives a different kind of innovation.
Obviously there are many more cultural differences. But as a people, we are all essentially working with the same needs.
All that being said I don't appreciate the great firewall when I'mthere, the censorship, and the fear they have about discussing banned topics. I don't appreciate the high-tech security cameras at every corner, or all the tracking of activities. The younger generations tolerate this for now because they are wealthier than their parents and told to cooperate, but that may not hold long term.
I don’t appreciate the high-tech security cameras at every corner, or all the tracking of activities.
I've got bad news for you about the West.
Sounds like it's time for a reminder to FUCK THE CCP and the clown emperor Xi. Never forget Tieneman square. Long live free Taiwan.
We don't need to forget how great Hong Kong was up until a few years ago.
ah yeah so great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWgQPHKT0wQ
The kids are alright
We can be nice to Chinese people
But fuck the CCP. If this is about the youths' friendliness towards the Chinese government, I wholly blame TikTok
Yeah, capitalist plutocratic murderous bastards
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"...and here's what we need to do about it."
Tiktok is doing its job.
We need to ban it.
Tiktok is doing its job.
Reminds me of War Game by Philip K. Dick.
Yeah, except in this, the Aliens have the neighborly board game that teaches you to be friends while they're secretly planning to genocide you.
China's a xenophobic, genocidal imperialist state with the explicit goal of expanding itself and its powers at the expense of its neighbors and the rest of the world.
lemmygrad
lol
This isn't the brilliant revelation you think it is.
Further proof that Reddit and gamers aren't the best representation of young people. Also really liking the fits that they're wearing in the picture.
Redditors are mostly millennials and gen x anyways
IT'S THE DARN TICK TOCKS RUINING THE YOUTH!!
...or maybe capitalism just sucks shit?
living through remnants of cold War with cccp
have access to internet to research what happend to america afterwards
everything made come from China
seemingly life is worse today compared to the 80s and 90s.
Yea I can't imagine why young people don't give a fuck about a new cold war with China
Wasn't part of the promise of economic globalization that increased interdependence would lead to less conflict? That a smaller, more connected world, would lead to intercultural communication and understanding, leading to a more stable international order?
I mean, wasn't this supposed to be a feature? Why is it being reported as a bug?
China's a great guy
The majority of that age range still considers China an enemy, but a tiny fraction of ambivalent onlookers out of an overwhelming majority of a reflexively anti-China populace is enough for the Economist to dedicate an article to a fucking YouGov poll.
It's just another pearl-clutching "what's wrong with today's youths" headline to panic the elderly while flattering compliant millennials/zoomers for being one of the few (despite still being the majority!) "good ones" that march goose-step with consensus Western political thought.
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A lot of American youth are just anti-america and uncritically reverse engineer their opinions based on that. That's how a bunch of tiktokers promoted bin ladens manifesto.
China, Qatar and Iran, buying Americans minds since 2000.
Investment is paying off.
Are you sure about that buddy?
I got a highly upvoted post removed for saying "be nice to Chinese people but f#$ the ccp."
Guess what t@nk!e instance just got added to the filter list. I recommend everyone else do the same
I can't if you don't tell me what instance it is.
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While Keywords are good for visibility, if you want to participate in the conversation you need to actually say something.
Younger Americans will be friendly to any place that'll put up with them when Trump wins
If anyone is paying attention to whats happening in china, the country is going backwawds due to a mao-wanna-be leader. Its changing so fast that whether the picture you had about china is accurate is not an issue anymore tbh. Also note that like russia, they spend huge amount of money on foreign propoganda.
Don't know if you haven't noticed, but there's nothing "backwawds" about what China is doing right now. They're kicking your ass at everything
Please explain how Xi is like Mao? I don't even mean this in a good/bad way, just like specific similarities. Cuz it really just sounds like you think both Mao and Xi bad and so you are just saying Xi bad in a really roundabout way.
This just in: kids are fucking idiots. 🥹🤦🏽♂️
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I'm not so sure this copypasta would catch on.
Oh, hey, a moron in the wild.
kbin.social has some shitty moderation huh