He reportedly joked that the secret to a long marriage was ensuring your spouse was "someone who is always mildly sedated so she can never realise there are better men out there"
"In what was always understood as a private conversation James, the Home Secretary tackling spiking, made what was clearly meant to be an ironic joke - for which he apologises," a spokesperson for Cleverly said in a statement.
So a self-deprecating, incredible obvious joke, told in private to friends, has people jumping to be offended!
People really need to save their outrage for serious stuff because being outraged over something like this minimizes actually serious situations. It's like the boy who cried wolf(read: outrage).
Edit: is also fairly obvious that most of you just read the headline and popped in to be outraged. Merry Christmas!
Yeah, this is ridiculous. Imagine living in a world where you are afraid of joking because people will lose their minds.
Even if his joke was even worse than this, who cares? The people at the party would have thought, "Wow, this guy is lame," and that would have been enough of a consequence.
What kind of puritanical, pearl-clutching, and judgemental society are we creating with these outrageous reactions. Get a life people.
If you wanna hate him, hate him for actual valid reasons. Don't become a petty gossip-monger.
It's a joke about drugging your wife. You know that's a real thing that happens, right?
You'll have to forgive me for not finding "I abuse my wife" a funny joke. I dont find abusing women to be a funny subject, really no matter the context. If he had said, "The secret to my long marriage is beating my wife," would you have still found it funny? Or is it only acceptable because the joke is that he is drugging her?
I can not imagine what I would do if my spouse said something like that about me. It's violating demeaning and humiliating. A total lack of respect for me.
You don't have to find it funny. You also don't have to be so offended by it. It's clear you don't share the same humor. Maybe your spouse doesn't either. Neither of you I smarties to the guy.
It's not a big deal, as the other poster said, save your outrage for something that actually matters.
If the government has even the smallest modicum of dignity, he'll resign or be sacked. It's one thing to enjoy crass and offensive jokes, I certainly do, but there's a time and a place for such humour. I mean he's the Home Secretary for fucks sake! How in the world did he think that that kind of joke would go down well?
I've seen first hand the aftermath of someone's drink being spiked... It's not something I ever want to deal with again. Though I'll bet it was far worse for the unfortunate victim of it.
He reportedly added that the secret to a long marriage was to ensure your spouse was “someone who is always mildly sedated so she can never realise there are better men out there.”
It 100% was a joke. Just a very inappropriate one.
According to the paper, Cleverly – a senior minister in Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s Conservative government – said that adding “a little bit of Rohypnol in her drink every night” was “not really illegal if it’s only a little bit.”
He reportedly added that the secret to a long marriage was to ensure your spouse was “someone who is always mildly sedated so she can never realise there are better men out there.”
His comments came on the same day that Cleverly vowed to strengthen British laws on the growing epidemic of drink spiking in the UK, according to the Mirror.
He should have been sacked when he described Stockton -- a place ravaged by 13 years of Tory austerity -- as a 'shithole' during a televised parliamentary session.
Not for calling Stockton a shithole (I love the place but it really is a bit rough), but for being the sort of politician that is so poor at their job that they say stuff like this in front of the public.
God's sake. I mean... At least he's apologising? I could imagine some of our recent lot doubling down on this and refusing to give in to wokeness blah blah blah...
But yeah. I'm really trying hard to be charitable cos it's Christmas and everything. That's not really pleasant stuff to hear from the guy who is in charge of the Police (over 1,100 under investigation for sexual assault or domestic violence atm)
He didn't make a joke about raping his wife, it was a self deprecating joke about making it so his wife wouldn't realize there are better men out there.
But good on you for being so offended by something that didn't even happen. Marvelous, I say, marvelous.
Basically nothing is wrong. Some mods are inconsistent about which stories they choose to delete. They have been treating MBFC like the Bible of the Land, as in they also are selective about it but expect the rest of us to comply.
Notice that I said SOME. I think the mods are doing a fine job but I believe they should reconsider MBFC.
From this distance, I only hear about this sort of comment when they apologize for it. Is it really appropriate to broadcast apologies much louder than the thing you're apologizing for?
He made a joke in poor taste about his own wife. Not like he advocated raping strangers. Not like he advocated raping his own wife, it was a poor joke. It was meant in a self-deprecating manor.
Jesus people, let a bad joke go. I'm quite sure he hates himself for it and is quite regretful. Or shall we beat his ass more?
When conservatives talk "cancel culture", this is the kinda thing they point to. Don't feed them ammo.
[I like to defend Spousal Abuse, and think we should just let it go]
There. fixed that for you. It's a non-zero chance that it really was "just a joke", and even if it was, jokes about abusing your spouse... is never appropriate. Would you find "The secret to a long marriage, I beat my wife so she's too scared to leave" funny? I doubt it. Because it's downright awful.
The fact that he thinks it's okay to joke about this- to women- in a nominally public, government function... makes me wonder he does in private.
He's a Tory. I very much doubt he feels bad about the joke, more likely just feels bad that he got caught. Last month in parliament if you believe his accuser he called a constituency a shit hole and if you believe his defence he called a fellow MP a shit hole.
Plenty of people have been spiked by a partner in exactly this way. It's not a funny joke. Someone making this kind of joke and thinking it's acceptable is shitty. Someone who's a leading politician, in a job responsible for crime and justice, at a political function in a government venue, telling this joke to a group of women... The unacceptable is off the charts there. I seriously worry about someone with that lack of judgement and humanity being in a job like that. Criticising and holding people in power to account for their actions is not 'cancel culture '.
quite sure he hates himself for it and is quite regretful.
He's a Tory politician. He wouldn't hate himself for selling his mom for an extra year of shitting on poor people and immigrants. He definitely doesn't hate himself for this.
He hates that he was called out for it, but that's it.