Pretty sure they only hate Jewish immigrants. There seems to be a lot of crossover between American anti-semites and people who want Israel to carpet bomb Gaza
As an American Jew: They hate all Jews. They see us as having no loyalty to our country (their evidence being: we're Jews - and that's it). They see us as controlling the world's markets and all the other anti-semitic tropes that have circulated for thousands of years.
When it comes to Israel, they approve of it for four main reasons:
Among the evangelicals, they think Jews running Israel is the first step towards Jesus returning. The second step is a huge attack on Israel and then Jesus would return and toss all the Jews into hell. This "support for Israel" is just delayed anti-semitism. They're willing to put up with Jews there because they think they'll benefit (be taken to heaven) while Jews will suffer.
Among the white supremacist groups, Israel is seen as a convenient dumping grounds for American Jews. If they ever get their wet dream of expelling all us "traitorous Jews," they'll just ship us all off to Israel. Nevermind that most of us don't trace our ancestry to Israel for thousands of years. Nevermind that we've been American citizens for generations. We're Jews so they would declare that Israel is where we "belong" and ship us off to rid "their country" of Jews.
Among the bigots (which includes white supremacists), there is hatred for Muslims as well. Israel opposes Muslim countries/groups. Therefore, they see Israel as a temporary... Well, not really an ally as much as a tool. They will "support" Israel and help them kill Muslims. If Israelis get slaughtered, the bigots don't care. After all, those are likely just Jews over there. This ignores that Israelis can be Jewish, Christian, or even Muslim - but since when have bigots cared about distinctions when a stereotype will suffice?
Among the politicians, it gives them talking points. Not only with the evangelicals and white supremacists, but with the Jewish community. The politicians can say that they "support Israel" and some Jews (like my parents) get fooled into thinking that this means they support Jews in America. Nope. They are more than willing to give Israel support, but Jews at home are "globalist traitors who must be dealt with as soon as possible." Not that most politicians would say this part out loud. They'd use dogwhistles, but there's a growing segment that doesn't bother with dogwhistles.
That's interesting. I didn't read that into it. I assumed that stuff being said during such a dinner don't come out because we'd have heard a lot more of Trump's quotes if it did
I mean, it's more plausible than not that a similar sentiment was shared at Trump’s dinner, but probably using smaller words so everyone could understand.
And just part of white nationalism is that they want Jews to leave their country and move to Israel. (I’m not sure what they think about white Europeans on Native American lands. They probably came up with some bullshit that lets them live in Oklahoma but I avoid people like that. Someone else will have to ask.)
Honestly, my perception of the antisemite/Zionist crossover has always been that is there's a Jewish state then there's a place for Jews to go that isn't here.
I don't know though, that may be entirely too rational for a worldview founded on ignorance-fueled emotions.
Let me introduce you to THE MADAGASCAR PLAN!
TLDR-The Nazis planned on sending all the Jews to Madagascar so they'd get out of Europe. They thought to send them to Palestine first, but the British controlled that and the guy planning it didn't want the Jews too close to Europe.
This was a large part of the discussion in Europe at the end of WW2.
Germany wasn't the only country trying to decide an answer to "the Jewish question." Some advocates may have had good intentions, but many just didn't want to open their borders to Jewish refugees, and the idea of Israel was a convenient way for them to wash their hands of it.
Its really more religious from my understanding. The idea that Jesus will come back sometime after the jewish temple gets rebuilt, I think, is what is being spread. Isreal has to be a sovereign nation for the end of the world to kick off.
I knew the word Perfidious from its best use, Perfidious Albion.
That's one use of the word that was fucking earned. Don't trust the word of the British Empire.
It's also the only use that should really exist anymore. Anyone who uses perfidious in a sentence that is not criticizing the British needs to just stop. And if they're a Nazi jackass, they need to take a thesaurus and slam it repeatedly against their own head until they stop being a Nazi.
What a creepy weirdo. No wonder the cons lap it up. It's the party of creepy weirdos.
What really puzzles me is how the Qtarded "save the children" crap gets any traction even with the dumbest people in the base - given that so many of their prominent members are such obvious pedos: donnie diapers, Fuentes, Gaetz, etc...
In all seriousness, it seems like there should be a limit to free speech regarding the likes of Fuentes. Meaning, if you are calling for the murder of millions [1] of people in America, why should that be protected speech?
[1] - Depending on what counts as "xtian" in the view of this xtian nationalist thug, it could be anywhere from 1/3 of the population (unaffiliated + Jewish, Buddhist, etc.) to much, much higher if you exclude all but white evangelicals - 86.4% of the country. He's calling for murder on an unbelievable scale - 112+ million to 293+ million people.
This son of a bitch has been talking a lot of shit lately. Of course, when he says "this group must be murdered," and "that group must be murdered," he'll have his kill-billy followers do the job for him while he huddles in the corner pissing his pants. At least Richard Spencer, for all his grotesqueness, could take a punch. This... thing can't even do that.
Edit: for the unenlightened rabble who might consider consorting with xenos
Perfidious Eldar! They had the stars in their grasp and now are left to sift the dust of their once fabulous realm. For all their intellect and mysticism they could not contain the beast within them, nor tame the wild monsters of the Shadow. Why should we pay them any heed?
Nick Fuentes, the hate leader who dined at Mar-a-Lago last year with Donald Trump and Kanye West, is calling for a genocide of “perfidious Jews” and other non-Christians.
Fuentes hosts an annual America First Political Action Conference — which he holds as far-right counter-programming to the more conventional CPAC.
Fuentes’ event has attracted congressional speakers including Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) and Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.).
This week, Jones was reinstated to the X platform by Elon Musk — despite the massive legal judgment against him for lying about the Sandy Hook massacre.
They have launched a #FreeNick hashtag, and one acolyte has tweeted that he’s holding a hunger strike until Fuentes gets his account back.
In October, Fuentes was caught meeting with influential state Republican leaders in Fort Worth.
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We can stop talking about anything remotely related to Trump's associates being Nazis.
We fucking know. Stop platforming them.
This isn't a revelation. Nazis love Trump. We're not learning anything new about HIM. Ask yourself: If this guy was just doing Nazi shit on his own, with no Trump, would we be remotely interested? No. And since we're not learning anything new about Trump here, either, how about we stop platforming Trump's Nazi friends.