Scott Pilgrim Memory; The 2010 movie was a disaster that lead to a wave of insufferable giga-hipsters who *did not get the point* in the worst way. True or false?

I think a lot of people missed the point of it, but I don't really know what, if anything in that entire movie could be seen as aspirational. Playing the bass? Cheating on a teenager with a girl with dyed hair? Getting in a sword fight in a club? Like, nothing in that movie is the type of thing I would describe as a goal.

cries in sword lesbian bassist Am i a joke to you?
- You'll be a joke until you break up with your fake high school girlfriend.
- This is my entire TikTok on a good day
Only having Wallace Wells as a friend is aspirational. We should all strive to either be or befriend that kind of person.
I don't every piece of media has to "have a message." Or maybe the message is just "be yourself even if you're a complete dork and you will also get a hot girl to date you"
- Right, but the entire premise of OP's post was that hipsters thought the movie was aspirational and that fucked up the vibe in bars for years?
  
  If there's no message and no point, what did these people misinterpret? How would being yourself fuck up the vibe in dive bars?
  
  I've never been a bar person at all so I wouldn't know, but I truly don't even get what OP is talking about, other than complaining about people adopting a "nerd chic" vibe in which case the OP also misinterpreted the film.
Given the movie’s target audience (marketed to 2013’s teenage boys who play video games), the aspirational part is being A Nerd who can win a prize as beautiful and aloof as the movie’s Ramona. I swear, Revenge Of The Nerds and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Everyone I hung out with loved the movie, but nobody missed that Scott is a disastrous human being. The movie actually insists that no, you cannot just weasel your way out of problems with the Power of Love, you have to learn Self-Respect so that you can also respect others and acknowledge your role in creating the current situation before you can move on.

And of course, the gag where "Nega-Scott" is actually a really good guy... because regular Scott is terrible. The movie is pretty clear about this.

But he also gets the love interest with whom he's been creepily obsessed, and his high school girlfriend who he cheated on has a ridiculous turnaround and tells him to go for it.

The movie might show him as an asshole, but it also rewards him in a way that feels made to fit a male perspective.
- I can't remember the movie super well but the comics make it clear that Scott's view of Ramona is heavily rose tinted and she's a shitty useless asshole too.
- I think its a semi-autobiographical story about Bryan Lee O'Malley and Hope Larson's relationship and just them maturing from the kinda shitty Toronto hipsters they were to be more fully developed people. They end up together because they were married at that time and they even have a cameo in the film
- This sort of treatment of shitty male protagonists was seemingly obligatory for my entire childhood. I haven’t seen enough movies recently to know whether it’s still the case but I’d guess it is, if slightly less so.
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Was this real? Did I mandela effect it from the negative zone or something? Am I just getting old?

I think so. I don't think Scott Pilgrim had anywhere near the cultural impact you're assigning to it. This is my anecdotal memory, so take it for what it is.

When it came out, it did well, people talked about it for like a week or two, and then everyone moved on to whatever the next movie was, like most popular movies. It didn't have even half the cultural impact of Fight Club, people weren't still quoting it years after it came out, I had honestly forgotten about it till everyone here started talking about it again. Even among the bigger fans of the movie I've met, none of them emulated Scott, consensus seemed to be he was a douche. Even I got that when I first saw it and I sucked at media analysis back then. They cast fucking Micheal Cera to play him, people have hated that dweeb since he was in Arrested Development, he mostly gets cast as annoying assholes these days.

I think the movie got made because annoying hipsters were a thing at the time it came out, there were already tons of memes about how annoying hipsters were, years before the film was even in Pre-production. I don't think the film made any significant contribution to the population of hipsters. I was a bit of a hipster back then, and I liked the movie but it didn't inspire me to be more of a hipster, if anything it made me wanna cool it a bit.

So I don't know why everyone is assigning all this cultural capital to a movie that was about as influential as Weekend at Bernie's.

yeah, this here. Its just a movie based on a fun comic?
- I'm not saying the message of the movie was great but I don't really think it had that much impact on the world. People thought it was a fun mid-budget movie. At the time it came out we had a sorta similar thing to what we have going on now with Marvel movies dominating everything, it was just grim gritty action movies. Scott Pilgrim was colorful and not afraid to have cheeky inside humor. People liked it, but it was forgotten fast, the Fast and Furious movies probably had more overall impact on the cultural zeitgeist.
I've never even heard of this movie. Granted I'm pretty old, but still.

Also, how dare you slander the cinematic masterpiece that is Weekend at Bernie's?!

I really think you're remembering a much bigger impact than there actually was.

I think you're right.
I'm an old fart, and movies like this were always made. But it made little impact at the time because Kick-ass ruined this genre right before this movie came out. If anything, this movie feeds off nostalgia by a group of people who missed this movie in theaters because they were too young to drive themselves there.

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Same and same.
Yeah I liked Scott Pilgrim for the action and visuals. Good action, funny dialogue, great visual style. Never walked out of the film idolizing Scott Pilgrim at all.

I don't know if the creators of the movie "got the point" either. That movie really feels like Hollywood fundamentally misunderstanding another medium (in this case comics) as usual. The alternate ending worked much better for the movie I think.

The comic really drives the point home about how being a shitty hipster makes you a pretty shitty person, with silly video game style boss fights thrown in. It's a great read, with the characters becoming increasingly insufferable the older you are compared to them. Edit: This sounds like a negative, but it is deliberate and works really well in the context of the story.

what i don't get about all the discourse around here lately when it comes to this movie is attacking the wrong 'bad part' of the movie (as someone who has been a fan of it)

no one I know was influenced by scott, if anything he's the opposite of an aspirational figure - there is little, if any, cultural impact stemming from his character.

who we SHOULD be talking about is Ramona, and the way in which the Manic Pixie Dream Girl girlfriend became such an integral part of the 2010s culture, it's impact on dudes who saw themselves as sitting outside the mainstream who now thought that an MPDG would fix them, and how this in turn affected women (feeding into internalised 'not like other girls' misogyny that was coming from spaces like early Tumblr)

As much of Scott's character arc the movie had to skip over, they pretty much gutted Ramona's entire arc in service of keeping the runtime manageable. A large part of the point of the comics is that they're both terrible people with a trail of ruined lives behind them and they both have to become better for themselves, each other, and everyone else.
Big oof. I was the manic pixie dream ~~girl~~boyfriend for a bunch of people in the '10s. It was really easy for people to play with you for a while then throw the toy away when they found out that "manic" also comes with severe depression and sometimes real, actual, scary mania. : p
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so true. I feel like 500 Days of Summer contributed to this a lot too. Really anything with Zooey Deschanel lol
- She was the dream girl of the day.
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I remember the movie having all the cultural impact of a wet fart, particularly considering it did pretty poorly at the box office, even if it did develop an audience later.

Has anyone ever really watched a movie with a character played by Michael Cera and thought, "Oooh, him! I want to be just like him!"

Alan was alright in the Barbie movie.
- He was funny but I don't think anyone wants to be Alan
We should fear whoever pulls the "he just like me fr" thing on a Michael Cera character.
- I do like the Michael Cera is one of the few A-list (at least once upon a time) male actors in Hollywood who looks boy-ish and nerdy and isn't a typical square jawed hunk. Even Timothy C and others are still very masculine and square-jawed.
  
  Kind of feelsbadman as a roundfaced boyish looking guy when everyone mocks Michael Cera constantly, definitely feel like a lot of the venom aimed at him comes from a toxic masculinity place

I gotta be honest this is way too over the top. Shitty venues and dive bars? Oh no, thats so terrible.

There's a reason they're called DIVE bars

Scott Pilgrim is more incelcore than fight club

Flight club is like anti-incel. It is about creating elaborate rituals to allow yourself to touch the bodies of other men. And also anprim

I remember I was part of a very small cadre of people who went to go see it while there was a line around the block for the latest "Expendables" movie. It was definitely always more of a cult film, but it definitely had a huge impact on the people who were fans of it (especially those who were also in media). It's kinda like the Speed Racer movie in that sense I guess.

As for myself: I saw it in my early 20s when it came out and I definitely got that Scott was not "aspirational"....but I also didn't get just how much of a fucking asshole he was until my 30s so....mixed bag.

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No what actually happened is hipsters are naturally obnoxious

hipsters havent been a thing in over a decade
- Movie came out 13 years ago

ive seen one fight inspired by this movie in the middle school also its trash and he sexually assaults the lesbian character, like no one talks about that. it upset me so much in middle school i stopped talking to my aunt who recommended it to me for a week lol.

I remember an insufferable vegan guy being a huge fan of the movie, but I didn't notice any dive bar activity in the UK.

Back then Wetherspoons were dingy old depressing pubs full of old men and moulding furniture.

Now they've all gone upmarket and you'd have to fight to find a nice comfortably depressing place to get drunk for under a tenner.

I don't blame the film for that though, just the rising cost of living forcing stay-at-home-barkeepers to reconsider whether it's worth keeping the pub open, or selling to some startup cunt.

My memory of watching that movie is feeling uncomfortable and realizing "oh, these characters are the people I went to college with."

Maybe that's what I'm remembering. Scott Pilgrim didn't influence the people around me, they were already there? I definitely had a roommate that was very Scott-like.
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what was the point of the movie ?

Being in a romantic relationship with a child is forgivable and stalking emotionally distant women is cool.

Which is what a sex criminal Hollywood type would have got from the comic book
- i dont think anyone in the movie ever condones his dating a high schooler, its supposed to be weird and loser behavior (hes a weird loser) and I dont think they ever even kiss.
Be yourself and have fun with friends. Everything else is just blue curtains action scenes
- no this is wrong ,i analysed it and its a entertaiment Product intended to make Passive Income money for the Interlectuall Property owners ..

I was in DC at the time and went w hipster friends who hadn't read the comics.

They found it entertaining but I don't think aspirational was really the reaction? Granted they wanted my take (which was and still is, it got the style of the graphic novel but totally gutted the story's emotional depth), so maybe my instant negative reaction to the second half of the film played a role.

False. I hear this all the time about the comic or the movie and frankly I'm never sure what phenomenon it's referring to. At worst it was part of the wave of the mainstreaming of nerd culture, which brought mutual ruin to both the mainstream and nerd culture. Maybe you could tie it to every independent music scene simultaneously becoming shit, but I'm not sure I see the causal link there.

What I do remember is the word "hipster" becoming popular in the late 00s and almost immediately becoming a signifier for any kind of annoying person who thinks they're better than you. This was instrumentalized to bury the last remnants of intellectualism and political consciousness in American culture, paving the way for the sneering stupid consumerism we have now.

Fr, I was either just out of or on my last year of high school in 2010 and we had hipsters everywhere cause that's what all band geeks became. Never heard a thing about Scott pilgrim.

I largely forgot what it was about, what was the point again?

The point of the comic was basically Scott was kind of an asshole and really failed at communicating with the women in his life and treating them like people with agency.
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- It's about toxic masculinity? I can sort of see that.

I think it got more recognition later for being an Edgar Wright movie than it did immediately on release, and it does have some decent sight gags. I saw it around when it came out because I had read the comics but I don't know that I heard people talking about it much until years later when it was mostly people bemoaning how others had missed the point

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That is basically the plot of the movie

This is cruel to some of us hipsters who were just nerds with obscure tastes and fell into the hipster label. Seriously, I didn't think crocs would be a joke until some 20+ years later!

I watched the first few episodes of the reboot. Good animations. Didn't care for the story and stopped watching after the 2nd episode. As for the movie, I fell asleep about an hour and forgot about it until now.

I don't know about that but it definitely started a lot of people (me included) on the incel arc, worst years of my life.

I watched because he had a rick. I did not like the bass riffs. Also, Metric has a song in the movie. And Toronto was there. Don't remember much else.

Metric's song is the best part of the whole movie
- I still love that song, it's one of my best driving jams

I think the worst thing was that the Cal Arts animation style clearly took some influence from Bryan Lee O'Malley's art style.

My Scott Pilgrim memory:

Saw it in the theater. Thought it sucked out loud. Never thought about it again until the last few days.

At least in the UK, I don't think anyone has ever talked to me about the film in real life. I don't think it was very popular over here.

I had seeeeeeveral friends who watched that movie literally dozens of times. Well over 30 times. I never understood

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Scott Pilgrim Memory; The 2010 movie was a disaster that lead to a wave of insufferable giga-hipsters who did not get the point in the worst way. True or false?