To people voting for Biden, what will make you not vote for him in the general election?
I've noticed a lot of posts asking how we're going to vote, and people coming in trying to shame people for not voting for Biden, or any candidate in the general election at all.
So I'm curious and, asking in good faith, want to know - what will make you stop voting for Biden?
Anyone voting for Biden at this point would vote for Biden no matter what. He could walk into their home, eat their firstborn, and screech BUILD BACK BETTER and they'd fucking clap.
The real question I have is, what is the alternative plan? I think I know the answer sadly: there isn't one.
We like to walk around with our big materialists dicks swinging about but once that theoretical rubber hits the material road its all road rash and no action.
So what's the plan? Are we all just hyper-individualists or are we collectivists? Could we even unify behind a candidate at all?
Because ill keep it 100 with you: I don't have a fucking plan, and I think no one else does either and instead of just saying that out loud, we'll justify whatever we do with some pious notion centered around some moral ideal.
"A vote for Joe is a vote for Genocide"
"A vote for Trump/whoever is a vote for Fascism"
"Given the choice between Hitler and Mussolini, I'll chose neither"
A bunch of paper mache pillars we build for ourselves to stand on while looking down at everyone else around us.
Daily reminder that out of all post-WWII GOP presidents, Trump isn't the worst one and is rather run-of-the-mill. From bad to ghoul in human form, it's Ford < Ike/Bush Sr < Trump/Nixon < Reagan < Dubya. On the other hand, Biden is horrible as a Democrat. Post-FDR Democrat presidents from bad to ghoul, it's JFK << Carter < LBJ/Clinton/Obama < Biden < Truman. Combining the two would be like JFK << Ford/Carter < LBJ/Clinton/Obama/Ike/Bush Sr < Biden/Trump/Nixon < Truman/Reagan < Dubya.
He had my half hearted vote for pulling out of Afghanistan, but the genocide support killed it for me.
Then Trump has been recently saying he's going to purge all communists from the US... If it were coming from anyone else, I'd be alarmed, but he couldn't command a coherent escape from a wet paper bag. It's just his new 'lock her up'.
I hope they both die the night before the election.
Him being worse than the alternative. Electoralism won't fix anything, though...
As a person living in Alabama, I think my efforts are best spent on trying to get ANYONE but Tuberville elected for our military members but that election isn't until '26
Biden having a worse policies against minorities than his Republican opponent, which is impossible.
Otherwise both parties are functionally the same. The system is designed to punish those who abstain, so voting for Biden is still our best shot to protect the minorities, all else being equal. Hopefully this can hold out until 2028 when AOC runs for president.
Some hope that doing something else has a chance of making something materially better for anyone in any way, even down the line. That’s all, just a glimmer of hope
It feels bad and I hate it but I do, in fact, have to hand it to Chomsky on this one
Please roast me, I need to feel something, anything
When I consider the slim possibility that Biden could lose New York, and since I'm imagining myself as the magical swing state voter, I will begrudgingly vote for Biden instead of Marianne Williamson.
He'd have to be worse than Trump which is basically impossible. I will not abstain, I will chose the leader I want or, barring that, the least worst option. Biden it is.
A republican candidate that won’t accelerate all the bad shit that has happened under Biden. He may be shit but Trump is a whole ass shitstorm. That said I live in a fairly safely blue state so I may end up voting third party.