Please put your money where your mouth is.
Please put your money where your mouth is.
Sync Ultra is a very reasonable $17 a YEAR. YouTube Premium is reaching that per MONTH. I have sync downloaded and it was the first thing I did. Thanks lj for the beautiful app.
[EDIT: That was a poor comparison, as pointed out in the comments. Leaving it for discussion sake.
There are many counterpoints and actually good discussion happening down below. Even if you don't agree, thanks for showing me a different perspective!
If you want to support Sync, make sure to support the Lemmy Devs and your instance holders as well!
*This post was made early in the day before the update added the OTP option.]
As someone from a third world country, fuck no. That shit is too expensive for me. Maybe to you privileged folk it's reasonable. To me it's nonsense.
I feel shitty about it too since I was a long time sync pro user, I thought sync for lemmy would also have an affordable pro version but fuck me I guess
No. !fucksubscriptions@lemmy.world !
I would gladly pay once though.
Sync for Reddit Pro was 2.99€... I was expecting that much or up to 5€ for Sync for Lemmy... But these prices are just ridiculous. As much as I like Sync I just can't justify this kind of pricing when there are so many free alternatives without ads and tracking.
Right now I'm using Sync and it's really nice but it's not that much better than Jerboa for my use case.
Fuck off.
Im not paying you to remove the Ads that you injected into an addless service. Theres a half dozen other Lemmy apps already that dont pull this bullshit. And honestly synch doesnt do anything those apps dont. So other than being a mindless consumer or someone whose easily influenced by these vote manipulation shill posts, why the actual fuck would I spend money on it?
Lots of entitlement here...
Saying someone makes enough in their day job so all their other contributions should be free is...wow.
I guess I'm one of the few that thinks all work should be compensated. Especially work I can't do myself or that I prefer over others.
And really, it's not up to me to say what that compensation should be. It's only my job to decide if the offer is acceptable to me for what I perceive is the benefit over other options.
Because there are other options. But I'm here because I don't want the other options. I would guess many others are, too.
I'm not comfortable with a subscription model, sorry. I will happily pay for a one-time fee. For the use I do of Lemmy I'll pay up to €5. If they want to release a new version of the app in, say, 2-3 years down the line and ask for a new fee, I'm fine too.
I'll wait until Boost releases (it was my default Reddit app) and will choose between Sync, Boost, Summit, and Infinity paid versions.
I don't need the ultra features. I didn't even need the pro features. I bought Sync pro for Reddit as a "thank you" to the author. A subscription is a bit different. I would be more willing to spend a couple bucks on each feature release than a subscription.
The app is amazing and I'm not against the Dev just because of what they are charging. They can charge whatever they want, if there is a market willing to pay it's fine.
But 115€ lifetime is like 10-20 times more than the price I would pay. So as a consumer I'll just stay with the free version or another Lemmy app.
As a former infinity user, "Infinity for Lemmy" is the one I'm waiting for. I'm also interested in trying Voyager android app once it is released.
Now this "sync for Lemmy" app looks very well probably the best Lemmy app at the moment. Only thing is lacking for me (so far) is to have community icons in the small cards post layout. (So I can identify what's the topic is about before reading the title).
For the text size I changed base text to Medium and then I changed the specific description and comment relative text size to "Regular". This gives me the same text size as Infinity, at least in the comments.
YouTube Premium pays for Youtube itself and provides a higher payout to the content creators you watch. If you actually want to support the people you watch on Youtube Premium is the best option for that, premium views pay out sometimes 10x as much as ad revenue on videos. It's the best way to have a good experience and support the people you watch outside of giving them money directly.
Meanwhile, this is like paying some 3rd party website to scrape Youtube and make sure the people you watch don't see a penny. Since presumably if one of the servers like Lemmy.World breaks down and adds ad's to offset the astronomical server fees and growth, Sync would block them, if not they are doing a disservice to people who bought ad free.
No regional pricing.
I would never pay more then 10$ for a full game i could play for hundreds of hours, let alone 20$ to remove black rectangles from a free app.
sync ultra is just stupidly expensive, I'm not even talking about it, just the permanent ad removal option.
I think the main issue is we don't know where Lemmy is one year from now. I have already started to see a decline in my usage because there simply isn't enough content. /c/football is virtually dead it feels like and it (or rather /r/soccer) was my number one subreddit.
Would rather donate my time or money to FOSS like Thunder. Service models aren't the way for me.
The test of reasonableness is different for everyone.
I have no interest in cloud backup, or any other feature that incurs a cost to the dev. So why would I pay a subscription fee to "cover" those features?
If I like the app after sustained use, I might be willing to pay a one-time $8-$12 fee to remove ads/thank the dev/buy them a coffee
But I have zero interest in an ongoing subscription at this stage. There's just not enough value for me in spending that sort of money.
17 a year seems reasonable if it's an app you use daily. There are costs associated with making and maintaing app.
The dev of sync have to split the ads and subscription revenue with the instances. It would be fair like this. He donating 30% of the revenue to them. He is paid and he pays for the usage of the instances.
Youtube premium isn't the same. Youtube itself has huge server, storage, bandwidth cost and premium is paying for it. The cost of the app is a fraction of it.
On youtube, you have each second tons of new content. What I don't have inside the app. The content comes from the instances. The equivalent would be paying a subscription to the instances.
The creators receive a part of my subscription what isn't the case here.
With youtube premium, I have youtube music an additional service included.
In my opinion, the first point is the fairest. The dev splits the revenues with the instances. It would be nearer to the Youtube model.
Lots of comments about the subscription. I had pro for years and had no idea the dev had switched to a subscription model. Had been anticipating the release but now.... I would gladly pay again but not though a subscription no matter how good the app is. First time I see an ad on the app I'll just go back to connect.
first thing I did after opening
Too late, already did
I think the cost is prohibitively high considering 99% of Reddit users have never used Lemmy before and have no idea how it works. There is a massive opportunity to soak up all those disolutioned redditors and a low entry price to kick things off over the next 6 to 12 months might have been a key way to achieve that. As it stands the cost is massive to a lot of people who will either use alternative apps or just won't even switch to Lemmy at all. You can't even submit your own posts yet. It's not prime time ready. I truly loved Sync for Reddit and have paid for Pro twice, and shown support to LJ, but I think this pricing level is a mistake.
Does the subscription also partly fund the instances I subscribe to (lemmy.world, lemmy.ml, etc servers)? If so then I'm onboard
I paid for ultra mainly to support the Dev. Lemmy isn't good enough for me to switch over just yet but I'll be keeping my eye on it now that Sync for Lemmy exists.
Good thing there's Liftoff for Lemmy
Outrageous price for an app. It doesn't even provide the content. It's just an app to show it. We have completely free options. That is it's competition, not youtube. Such a strange thing to compare it to. Youtube provides the framework and code and hosts the videos. It isn't simply a frontend app.
The idea of buying something when I haven't used it yet is kind of ridiculous, especially when the only option is an auto-renewing subscription service. If I could pay for a single month without having to figure out how and when I can cancel or it was a single purchase, I'd be more likely to give it a shot. Signing up for a subscription without knowing if the product is good just doesn't make sense to me
Add that to the fact that I have to pay to get the same no ads experience as many other free apps, that kinda rubs me the wrong way
Im still looking which app is for me, but honestly sync seems like the best atm. I am hosting pihole so adds are just blank posts every now and then. It doesnt bother me, but I dont like it. I dont mind supporting devs, but adds and subscription can just stop me tbh. Im not saying it will, 22€ is not much for lifetime sub imo. It just feels like its not in lemmy spirit. If it was without adds I would probably never consider other app after trying sync and more likely donate. But yeah, I understand that donations are not reliable income
I just bought a lifetime license for Sync. The customization, feature set, and options put it well above the 5 other Lemmy apps I've used. With almost a decade of consistent upgrades to Sync for Lemmy, I trust and support this developer.
I don't think I paid very much for the original version so I don't mind supporting him now but I understand that's not for everyone, so I think $20 for lifetime ad-free is very reasonable.
Shut up and take my money!
Immediately bought Ultra. Monthly basis and thankfully set it up with my Google Play balance. So glad I use Google Rewards to help out!
Feels like reuniting with an old friend!
How about, you know, Sync Pro again? I'd gladly pay one time to remove ads, but I'm not doing subscriptions.
The difference is I use YouTube and YouTube Music for hours a day. I'm on Lemmy maybe an hour a day. I'm not paying any subscription for a free service. I wouldn't even pay for YouTube Premium, but I'm an original Google Music adopter, and their music algorithm really knows what I like.
I gave up Netflix, so I can stomach the cost increase this one time. Maybe my mood will change when the price increase hits later this year.
Had some Google Play balance, supported the dev. This is already the best Lemmy app by far.
I paid to remove ads. I did so before seeing the price for Ultra. Ah well. lol
Excuse me? People can barely afford food. A huge chunk of the population will never own their own home. Everyone is asking for tips and wages are not going up. Why pay for something when I can access it for free right now? Sure they may have worked hard to make an app, but it's not my job or responsibility to pay them for a service that I get for free. I'm not paying $1.50 a month to have what my current app has. That's stupid.
Maaaaybe. But so far it's not quite RIF.
First thing I did, it's amazing
I hate it when people see a $100+ price-tag for a lifetime subscription and complain. A OTP is literally a user that cannot be charged again, and if lemmy keeps growing, it will provide value for many years.
I used sync pro for almost 10 years and paid something like $5 for it, such pricing is unsustainable for the developer and I totally understand the subscription model
Dude has the best app for lemmy and provides a good boost to the ecosystem which benefits all. Development time costs (a lot) of money and the dev has every right to charge what he wants.
Guys, just so you know, the Pro lifetime payment option is coming later.
It's by far the nicest Lemmy app I've used on Android. I used to use sync for reddit too.
It's a no brainer for me.
Um... No. There are plenty of free options I will use instead.
Done paid, this app rules so far thank you
The one time ad free payment is on the way. J is holding out on lifetime ultra since he wants to see where Lemmy is heading.
Done.
a premium is worth it.
but also we need to help instance owners somehow too.
I'm a day 1 Ultra! I have so missed the Sync experience since Reddit went apeshit cray cray. When sync for Reddit went dark I haven't gone back. I left it installed just In case I clicked a reddit link. I haven't been back to Reddit. But I will log one one final time to review my subs and then reddit is dead. Sync for Lemmy feels so familiar and awesome to use. Can't wait to help develop new communities here in the fediverse.
I'm starting to think that Lemmy was a bad idea. This place is FULL of hardcore nerds.
Everyone here degoogles, downvotes anything not Firefox, shit talks anything but Linux, and refuses to pay a penny because FOSS!!!!!
On Reddit these people at least existed in their own corner. Not all over the platform being annoying little twats.
