8GB RAM on M3 MacBook Pro 'Analogous to 16GB' on PCs, Claims Apple

I think they simply mean analogous in price.

My dick is 2 inches long. That’s analogous to 10 inches on Mars.

Holy crap, apple charges $200 to add 8GB of RAM. I just bought 32GB of DDR5 for the Framework I have on order for $95.

RAM is RAM. If you're able to manage it better, that's nice, but programs will still use whatever RAM they were designed to use. If you need to store 5 GiB of something in memory, what happens with the other 2.5 GiB, if they claim that it's 2x as "efficient?"

More apple gaslighting.

Lol no. My poor linux kernel barely keeps everything stable in 8GB and even then by shoving stuff into swapon zram.

I can just barely run a game and have a ton of FF tabs open + an IDE + discord + multiple desktops

WIndows basically dies once you hit the swap, and it usually starts at like 2GB used.

I'm assuming MacOS lies between Linux and Windows in memory management and performance, so it'll definitely start lagging if you open too much.

And this is all ignoring the fact that this is a scam statement that should be struck down by the FTC. You can't call an 8 gallon gas tank equivalent to a 16 gallon gas tank even if your car has better MPG. In that case you advertise the MPG. And in Apple's case, it would be something like "X% less RAM usage per system process" which we all know doesn't actually exist because its snake ass Apple.

So are they going to make the software smaller? What about iOS? Physically how does 8GB = 16GB? Can't wait to see Photoshop open a RAW and run out of memory. I will say the M2 CPU was pretty slick and if I got one cheap I'd throw Linux on there.

I call BS. My 8gb Mac Mini is terrible and constantly running out of memory.

I’m in need of a new laptop, but the lack of upgradeable RAM in these has really made it hard to justify. A minimum of 32gb, preferred 64gb (photographer working with very large files) costs hundreds extra and can’t be done by myself anymore. It’s also hard to find these ones used as the people who buy them have a specific use case and don’t replace them often.

Just waiting for Apple to just start trademarking and "inventing" units...

Our new Mac has the highest amount of "Rapid Storage Blocks (TM)" of any Mac ever! Enough to run 30 "Safari Experiences (TM)".

My 0.7l wine bottle can fit in 3l of water

Absolutely hilarious. But I've heard MacBoys parrot this exact same line of propaganda for years now.

16GB are totally enough! Apple will manage my 20GB of required RAM in such a way that it'll fit in my 16GB (actually ~15)

Yes, which is why anyone spending anywhere close to this on a laptop gets 32 GB RAM

MacOS is pretty decent at memory management. That being said, 8GB of RAM is ridiculous in 2023. Newer and updated applications are tossing memory management out the window. Platforms like Electron wreck memory usage, and many apps popular desktop apps are using Electron now. 12GB is the new 8GB, for Macs. 32GB is the new 16GB for PC's. I wouldn't recommend a computer with less than 12GB of RAM for more than $300.

You can't play games so you won't be able to notice the difference.

Thanks to RAM Doubler and DoubleSpace you won't feel the difference.

Edit: I had forgotten that it was first called Stacker before MS copied/reverse engineered it and sold it as DoubleSpace.

Not if it’s sharing memory with the GPU. Then its 6Gb is analogous to what exactly?

"lol" said Apple "lmao"

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Ha! Of course we will see this as a reduction in price, right?... Tim Apple?... Are you there?...

and they wanted to bring games to mac??, like how?

*half the ram, double the price! *That sounds catchy...

I bought a 8gig and I’m usually running apps like Photoshop and Illustrator. I really feel the hit.

Work bought me 16gig M1 and it is noticeably faster when swapping around between apps.

Fuck 8gigs

Fucking apple with the dumb ass marketing again. Can't wait to explain to fanbois you can't shove 16 lbs of shit into an 8 lbs bag...

Fucking lol

I've been on 16GB of ram on all of my machines for so long ... It's really the sweet spot for everything I do (gaming etc. ) I don't do media production or anything like that. All that said I'm currently in the market for a new machine and will probably get 32GB "just to be safe" but since my next laptop will probably be a framework I don't have to make the decision till I actually need the ram and even then I can still decide to get one stick first the other later and the prices scales pretty linearly.

8GB might still be enough for some web browsing and stuff but apple should not put this little RAM in anything they call professional.

And before anyone says "you only need that much ram in Windows" well ... I don't and won't be running Windows ;)

I don't even think I've ever even seen my work MacBook using under 8GB of RAM and I'm fairly RAM efficient in my workflow. You'd start Docker on that thing and half your RAM is gone already, add VSCode and Chrome and everything is trashing already.

For the average user? Yeah, compression and swap is probably good enough. For professional use? Hell no.

Laughs in Adobe Premiere ....

I don't disagree that the M processors need less RAM, but the idea that they need half as much is bullshit. My poor little 8GB M1 struggles with more than 20 chrome tabs open, and it especially struggles when running apps that aren't built to be M1 compatible (through Rosetta).

Been there, done that ....

https://tidbits.com/2019/01/24/25-years-ago-in-tidbits-ram-doubler-debuts/

I had to use an m1 base air for school. The CPU was fast but ram was always at Ower 90 percent while doing almost nothing

On my unix-based system, after boot I'm sitting at 2gb usage, while Windows would be at >6GB, so it's not that far fetched. Until you try to run any applications..

Apple is banking on some big companies ordering computers based on "Pro" moniker and that's the reason why 13" Macbook Pro existed at all. Now that it is gone, 14" base M3 is taking its place. It's likely to be running basic Excel and PowerPoint so that's okay for the end user but still mighty shitty of Apple to price gouge on RAM.

CrApple are just such hardcore money grabbers since pretty much forever.

Maybe it’s true, but a better headline would be “our systems come with 16gb as standard, which feels like 32gb on windows.”

So you get a good amount of ram, which feels better because It’s a Mac.

Memory compression does allow the os to store to cram more data in the RAM, but does 8gb RAM with memory compression really equivalent to 16gb of RAM?

Ok.. but PCs can also use zram.

Ah yes, the megabyte myth. Certainly haven't anything like that before...

God damn fucking marketers

Just a wild guess, I think they mean that the M3 chip can load and unload things so much faster that it doesn’t need as much ram to do regular tasks. Of course, if you are loading video renders into ram, it won’t really apply to it anymore.

RAM manufacturers - haha

just not