Amid massive search for mass killing suspect, Maine residents remain behind locked doors
Amid massive search for mass killing suspect, Maine residents remain behind locked doors
Shocked and fearful Maine residents are keeping to their homes for a second night as hundreds of police and FBI agents search intently for Robert Card, a U.S.
Shocked and fearful Maine residents are keeping to their homes for a second night as hundreds of police and FBI agents search intently for Robert Card, a U.S.
Ah, the country of the free, where a whole town is in lockdown just because one guy who shouldn't exercised his freedom of owning guns!
Don't forget the trillion dollar surveillance state that doesn't prevent 99% of mass shootings, and hasn't been able to track down this guy; probably after walking around with a tracking device in his pocket the last 24 hours...
He's the "wrong" colour tho, that's why he surveillance isn't working properly /s
Well, with the amount of time this has gone on, he could be just about anywhere East of the Mississippi at this point. Drive 8 hours away into the middle of nowhere, find a secluded house, kill the occupant and lie low for a few weeks.
Why aren't all the pro-gun people in Maine out hunting him with their cool guns? They promised to keep everyone safe from tyranny and crime, even pledging to give up their lives for it.
But not only are they not doing that, they're defending themselves with doors, the things they claimed couldn't keep you safe and even blamed for school shootings.
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This is the real fantasy that gun companies want you to have.
This really strange belief that we'd all be better if every man, woman, child, squirrel, pile of potatoes was armed.
Sure, people would die, but think of the profits
Yeah! The police are looking for an unhinged man with a gun, so go grab your gun and help them look!
Makes sense. Shooter isn't using a "normal" AR-15, it's shooting .308 rounds which have a far greater range on them.
"The weapon believed to have been used in the attack was a sniper rifle with .308 caliber bullets, and it was purchased legally this year, officials said."
In case you're wondering what difference that makes, a stock AR-15 is generally a .223 round.
https://www.ammoman.com/blog/223-vs-308-two-sides-of-the-same-coin/
What's the difference aside from range, more power?
From the source with the image:
55 Grain 223 FMJ Ammo
Average muzzle velocity – 2867 fps
Average muzzle energy – 1004 ft/lbs
Bullet drop at 500 yards – 75.02 inches147 Grain 308 FMJ Ammo
Average muzzle velocity – 2672 fps
Average muzzle energy – 2330 ft/lbs
Bullet drop at 500 yards – 61.42 inchesSlower bullet, just barely, but 2x the energy.
Let's see if I can find a ballistics gel video:
Checkout ballistic performance for 308
Here's 223
Look at the energy specifically. 308 is a 7.62mm wide projectile, compared to the 223,which is 5.56mm, meaning it's much bigger. Normal 223 you can buy is gonna be 55 gr (4 g) while 308 has a much wider range between 150 gr (10 g) to 180 gr (11.7 g). While 308 is only going 80% of the speed of 223, it's 3 times heavier.
308 energy: 2,718 ft⋅lbf (3,685 J) 223 energy: 1,265 ft⋅lbf (1,715 J) That's a little more than twice as much power.
TL;DR 308 is used for hunting animals like deer and other mid size game, most states in the US do not allow 223 to be used for hunting those types of animals (underpowered)
Much bigger bullet.
Cost, weight, size, terminal ballistics, noise/sound, availability...
Nothing in practical terms here. Range is irrelevant, this guy isn't shooting people from 800 yards away. Power is largely irrelevant...somewhat more trauma from a bullet wound in certain circumstances.
When talking about walking around murdering people the caliber of the rifle isn't important in the slightest. It's a rifle round, that's all you really need to know.
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Yup, I heard confirmations tonight it was, indeed, an AR-10.
That really isn't all that relevant, especially the range, this guy isn't lining up 300+ yd shots, he's spraying and praying.
Only real difference is a .308 will hit harder, and leave a bigger hole, so a shot that may just be a wound with a .223, could wind up lethal with a .308. But any bullet can kill a man.
In terms of a stay at home order though, yeah. He's a threat from cross town. It makes sense to tell people to stay inside.
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Wouldn't that necessitate help of army? If the police can't control the situation in 24 hours, they should bring in several hundred/thousands soldiers and start house to house search of the whole area...
The army can't be used for such things. The national guard can, but they're still not intended for domestic law enforcement situations.
Actually the army can be used for it so long as they're subservient to the national guard, essentially working as aides.
Plus posse comitatus has never effectively been used.
