2w ago

Fedora's FESCo To Decide Whether To Replace Upstream X.Org Server With XLibre Fork

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2w ago

Fedora's FESCo To Decide Whether To Replace Upstream X.Org Server With XLibre Fork

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The Change proposal has been withdrawn by the author: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f43-change-proposal-x11libre-system-wide/156330/57
Xlibre is run by a very unstable and shitty person. Pass. Just let xserver die
- Not as long as possible replacements aren't platform-independent.
From what I understand, xorg has fundamental security flaws. How will they remedy this?
Why stick with a dead standard when the rest of the FOSS world has moved on?
What happens when the Linux kernel drops support for xorg? Do they intend to fork an older version of the kernel in order to keep support?
- While that's true, but the main issue here is the unavailability of frequent security patches that Fedora now appears to be attempting to solve with X11Libre.
- From what I understand, xorg has fundamental security flaws. How will they remedy this?
  They won't. Don't download random shit and if you're worried, run it in Flatpak
  What happens when the Linux kernel drops support for xorg? Do they intend to fork an older version of the kernel in order to keep support?
  Not really possible, since X11 is only built on top of the kernel's graphical interface (same as Wayland). Even if that wasn't the case, the kernel doesn't delete any code that anybody uses (that's why 30 year old programs still run)
- The only way to fix Xorg is to break org. It requires a redesign.
  The Xorg devs chose to do that by starting a separate project. The breakage has been in Wayland, now maturing, while Xorg was left stable. Xlibre wants bring this disruption to the X codebase itself.
The first comment on the request
For the sake of all of our sanity, I'd really appreciate if FESCo could decide on this one really quickly (e.g. putting out a statement) and avoid what could be a most unpleasant flame-fest on this mailing list.
Not even an apology to Enrico first... Fucking Red Rats
- I'll refer you to someone that covered all this better than I could: https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/21003452
  
  Yeah, I love to see people being called "racist" over not liking corporate facades, or "neo nazi" over referencing a clown. Always very productive.
  There's a simple solution to this: if Red Hat doesn't like the guy or his code, don't fucking use it. They're the ones who banned him from Xorg and reverted his changes.
  Actually, why do I expect a corpo to be morally or ideologically consistent? Silly me...

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