CPC says based on testing, covid was present in the US before it was present in China
CPC says based on testing, covid was present in the US before it was present in China
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i also posted this on thedeprogram but i think it was deleted/censored? i see no traces of it
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I'm not convinced of the Fort Derrick lab leak theory either, but the the presence of Covid prior to the Wuhan outbreak at least eliminates the proximity to the Wuhan virology/biodefense labs as indicating a lab leak there.
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Same. I haven’t investigated it in a while, but last I read virologists are still fairly certain COVID has a zoological origin. I would not be surprised at all if factory farming created it.
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if true then it's basically the Spanish flu all over again, which funnily enough also started in flumerikkka.
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Wish it was a proper academic paper with citations--kinda annoying having to track down its sources.
Don't have time at the moment, but I did grab the paper which shows that the virus could have been present in the US as early as December 13-16 2019 on the west coast:
https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/72/12/e1004/6012472
and this NIH study which also showed earlier cases than had been officially confirmed:
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The statement said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention decided to issue a “cease and desist order” last month to halt the research at Fort Detrick because the center did not have “sufficient systems in place to decontaminate wastewater” from its highest-security labs.
They claim nothing escaped
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Called it in 2020
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I'm fairly certain I had it in November of 2019. My whole family was sick with what we figured was a bad flu, but it left my wife with more significant respiratory issues on top of her asthma. On top of that I somehow avoided getting Covid until 2022, despite several outbreaks at work to the point of literally working alongside people who later test positive. It was kind of incredible at the time, but if I already had antibodies then that would make a lot more sense.
There's not much of a way for it to start in China in Nov and then by the end of the month it ends up in bumfuck rural America. I'm sure we had the shit brewing for months before it was detected on the other side of the world.
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Yeah, I had some extended family that got a nasty "flu" around then, too. The only time I've heard of a "flu" taking away someone's ability to taste for a weekI
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I can add that same anecdote myself, sick in late 2019 and avoided covid until catching it in 2022.
Both times I distinctly remember it starting with an unusual scratchy sensation in my throat.
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I had what felt like the worst cold ever in December 2019. It was followed by a lingering recovery that ended with a diagnosis for reactive airway syndrome, asthma's little brother.
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Yeah I remember that too we had two coworkers who came back from trips in India and Vietnam and were really sick then we all got sick in the office, it was the first time I stayed home sick and actually went to the doctor because of how bad it was
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No shit. They sequenced the genomes years ago. The euro strain was 9 months older than the one detected in China.
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do you have the link to this
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i do. i kept it in a folder to spam at redditors https://web.archive.org/web/20200410111500/https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/covid-19-genetic-network-analysis-provides-snapshot-of-pandemic-origins
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There was stuff like this: https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-circulated-europe-china-before-wuhan-outbreak-2020-12
But, thinking about it more, it might have been wastewater testing they did that found covid months and months before China detected it. They keep samples of the wastewater for potential future testing and they went back and found covid. But with seo nonsense its harder and harder to find anything. If you're on the discord ark server for this website, you might find it there or there might be an oldhead there that archived it.
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The US is directly responsible for 10 of millions of deaths related to COVID. Richest, most powerful country in the world lets diseases run rampant everyday.
If COVID did arise in the US then that revolution is bitter. It doesn’t offer much in the way of solace for me personally. Hopefully, it would help to radicalize others though.
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Investigate Fort Detrick
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I had a feeling. My mother had flu like systems with lasting brain fog and lost of taste and smell in September 2019, months before the first cases were detected here.
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How quickly everyone forgot the pneumonia epidemic of 2019 and the mysterious vaping illness that was never spoken of again lmao
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intellectual novelty is dead
only tiktokGPTxitter now
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Vaping illness? The only vaping illbess I remember was from the counterfeit weed carts cut with Vitamin E Acetate as a thickener. I ended up with one of those Once, a single hit (it was a blinker) and my chest hurt for days. Tasted like burnt plastic, but not in a "I didn't prime this right so it tastes like acrolene" way.
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that's why I call covid The yankee doodle flu
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investigate fort detrick
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My Hypothisis that this is a US based Lab Leak is slowly looking more and more plauseable.
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Two conspiracies that I believe we will someday uncover:
- Trump cheated in 2024 (whether it actually makes a difference I’m less sure of)
- Fentanyl was pushed into the black market drug supply to try and kill off all the people who discovered “hey, some of these things aren’t so bad if you’re careful, maybe let’s work on harm reduction and jail fewer people”
The US inventing COVID as a bioweapon and then trying to blame “big bad China” after fucking up fits nicely within the hubris and malice of the ever present style of fascism we’ve lived with here since Harry Truman. I don’t think this is anything other than circumstantial at this point, but I really would not be surprised.
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Wasn’t it also found in Spanish waste water as early as spring of that year
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It was at least found in Italian waste water before the outbreak in Wuhan. https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200620/Italye28099s-sewage-water-shows-SARS-CoV-2-present-prior-to-reported-outbreak-in-Wuhan.aspx
I never really bought the Fort Detrick theory, but the story of COVID originating in China always seemed awfully convenient for the West.
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Ft detrick's wastewater sterilization equipment wasn't working for an entire year before it was shut down in August 2019
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Safety concerns at a prominent military germ lab have led the government to shut down research involving dangerous microbes like the Ebola virus.
The problems date back to May 2018, when storms flooded and ruined a decades-old steam sterilization plant that the institute had been using to treat wastewater from its labs, Ms. Vander Linden said. The damage halted research for months, until the institute developed a new decontamination system using chemicals.
The new system required changes in certain procedures in the laboratories. During an inspection in June, the C.D.C. found that the new procedures were not being followed consistently. Inspectors also found mechanical problems with the chemical-based decontamination system, as well as leaks
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I know one of the first detected cases in RI involved a guy who went to Ibiza and brought it back, but I don’t remember the exact timeframe.
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Is anyone surprised?
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Yea probably. But what was with the videos early on of people passing out in the streets of China?
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FLG scare vid. I don't think covid causes you to pass out. Perhaps they already died due to untreated illness? And since its FLG they prob clipped random vids together from various periods of time together.
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