Please remember this!
Please remember this!
cross-posted from: https://50501.chat/post/177705
Originally Posted By
u/transcendent167At2025-05-02 10:43:07 AM| Source
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No war but class war. All struggle is class struggle. Everything else is FUD and obfuscation.
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there's one African immigrant that should be blamed.
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Love that reddit watermark.
Be best OP
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Eh that's all on the mirror comm it's cross posted from
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That's not actually true at all.
They pour all this contrived hatred on poor immigrants because immigrant labour is the cheapest - and most expendable - labour around. And by assigning blame onto poor immigrants they manufacture the necessary consent to sicc more and more state violence onto poor immigrants in order to keep this source of labour as cheap - and thoroughly terrorised - as possible.
That's why. It's so damn basic you can find all of it in the second book of the Old Testament.
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To be incredibly pedantic (and I love being pedantic), this means that billionaires specifically are the problem, right?
What about medium/large business owners who are far from being billionaires, or small business owners who are trying to get their business off the ground, are they not also problematic given how they still exploit workers to the same degree (or even to a larger degree like small businesses, given how they enjoy a lot of discriminatory legal exemptions worldwide and have to cut labour costs in order to compete better) and are more likely than not to support reactionary rhetoric that divides the working classes further due to their class position?
If only there was a word to encompass all of them
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Capitalism? Sure billionaires aren't the only problem, but in a plutocracy they are a good place to start.
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I like calling people by their actions instead of any label. In this situation I would call them Wealth Hoarders. I think that covers the many labels of the rich on varying scales of wealth ownership without singling out any specific group.
I find the over use of labels to be a tool for distraction. It's easy to argue the definition of a label and ignore the actions that are actually happening. Describing a person's action leaves less room for debate and returns the focus back on shitty, unacceptable and unwanted behaviour.
As a nice bonus, describing shitty peoples actions and behaviours to them makes them visibly uncomfortable. At least from my experiences.
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"Wealth Hoarder" isn't the best term, given how it could also include decently affluent working class people who have a decent amount of savings. They technically hoard wealth for themselves albeit to a lesser extent, but are these people problematic/part of the problem?
Also, it was a rhetorical question, the answer is bourgeoisie (or capitalists if you don't want to use 19th century English). It's definition literally is the employers and people who own and run companies/factories, and rentiers who live off of rent (so landlords). Instead of describing an action, it does something better and describes their material position, what they have.
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50501 is not an org to be trusted. It’s an arm of the establishment trying to brand itself as an activist group, and there’s tons of problematic reports coming out from their behavior already.
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What if they also bring immigrants so that there are immigrants to blame?
Should we remember that, too?
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We don't need AI rubbish for this, someone already made this one:
Oops, I guess I was a little too spicy. I agree, we don’t need AI, and using the tools of billionaires instead of real art by human artists is at best misguided and at worst actively harming the people you purportedly want to help.
I don’t blame people for reposting it when they don’t realize it’s AI, it can be hard to tell.
We don't have an anti-AI art policy in this community, and remember it's a memes community, not a debating club on the merits or harms of gen-AI.
They made them centuries ago
Fighting the war class? No, I would better derive all my strength into a useless fight against a technology (which was also made and used by workers, artist are not the only workers in this world). Fighting my own comrades if necessary to accomplish the Butlerian Yihad.
That's how the left space feels nowadays. We better rebrand socialism to antiAIsm because there's not much else left on the movement these days.
I mean, why does it have to be one thing we are trying to not support? People in leftist spaces are trying to root out AI because of its myriad global problems and the way that the industry is akin to a new type of destructive bomb in the class war. Consolidating more wealth and power into the hands of the same technocrat few, poisoning the earth, destroying the livelihood of artists (and entire companies and divisions of workers across multiple industries because bosses are seeing dollar signs), stealing from the many and giving to the few in terms of creativity, it’s set to benefit the VCs…what is there to like about it?
You’re seeing a lot of talk about it because so many people thoughtlessly bought in when the more moral action would be to abstain from using it and insist on spaces that don’t welcome it. It’s not really that we are shifting energy away from more important things. It’s just that people will always say “hey, can we not use this here?” And you’re acting like we’re letting starving orphans starve so we can fight AI.
We're friendly to AI art on this instance. If you don't like that, the door is over there.
You can be friendly to it, but that doesn't mean you need to like everything. People are friendly to traditional art, doesn't mean they have to like every single piece of traditional art. People can be into food, but they don't need to like every single cuisine.
Surely you wouldn't take the position every single thing on here needs to be GenAI? So in the middle is where we find ourselves.
So be discerning, you owe yourself that at least.
Back to the topic:
This piece is just a bit rubbish and kinda unmemorable. The one I linked did a better job of conveying the same message in a more memorable way IMO, and it seems that opinion is shared by other users of your instance.
Silence, pro-AI troll