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THE POLICE PROBLEM @lemmy.world

ByteOnBikes @slrpnk.net

2w ago

Businesses letting cops know they're not needed

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Adore the sentiment but publicly calling out a violent gang at your place of business like this is almost suicidally ballsy
- Just hand out leftover food after closing and you'll have a hundred people who also hate cops watching over your place.
  
  And also do that regardless. Throwing out perfectly good food when people are starving is an especially cruel form of waste.
- I could see cops organizing something where they entice a tweaker to rob the place while they stand right outside going "darn, if only we could do something... 😂!"
  
  Still probably better than them getting involved.
- The option is no better .... allowing entitled power mad idiots with guns into your space that if you piss off or upset will threaten you or even start arresting people just because they can.
- Are you old enough to remember when librarians posted signs that their records had not YET been investigated by (I want to say) HLS?

Why am I picturing a hostess greeting people with: "Are you a cop? You have to tell me if you're a cop."
- They'd have my business forever
- "Show me your dick so I know you're not a cop"
  ...oh, you meant another kind of hostess? Carry on, then!
- Hostess played by Jack Nicholson
- I genuinely have no idea.

No shirt, no shoes, badge and gun, no service.

Will that even work? With the new ruling allowing warrantless searches? Can I just put one of these up on my front door and LE will just go, "dang, this place looked like a great one to ransack and pillage, but with the sign... Dang."
- Depends what you mean by “work”. Being a cop is not a protected class so yeah you can expel one from your private business for any reason or no reason at all.
  But if they are investigating a crime, executing a warrant, or any other kind of official business then no this sign doesn’t do shit legally. This place looks like it serves alcohol and is open to the public so there’s no right to privacy from police when holding a liquor license.
- That's the fun part... You get/have to bring your own enforcibility
- This is what we know as "virtue signaling" but otherwise has no real meaning.
  
  Odds are there's a shotty under the counter

oh I bet that made the wife beaters happy

I just saw my first one if these IRL today at a cafe where I ate lunch. It was only for ICE and not cops in general, but it made me feel good about spending my money there.

It's a public space. The limitations on search warrants are very low for those.
- It's not a public space, it's a publicly-accessible space. Limits on public access can be imposed by the property owners using trespass law. Violating posted signs is trespassing; cops that enter without a warrant or other special authority (beyond just being a cop, eg hot pursuit) are subject to criminal trespass.

That's an open invitation to criminals. Good luck when the cops don't show up
- They typically don't until it's all done anyhow. Then they shoot your dog.
  
  The goons in John Wick have more credibility than cops. I'd love a franchise where it's just John Wick gunning down these IRL goons and knock it off with this thin blue line propaganda horseshit
- Cops don't prevent crime. They only respond to it and often commit other crimes in the process
- The criminals are the ones being banned from the store
- Trick question, cops are criminals

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