Kevin McCarthy Says AOC Could Crush Old Guard Dems and ‘Become the Leader of the Democratic Party’

Remember when we were all laughing at McCarthy because he wanted to be Speaker so badly and kept failing, over and over, to get enough votes? And how it was funny when he got ousted because of the rules he had to agree to in order to secure the votes from the crazies? And laughing because that, predictably, bit him in the ass?
I feel like that stopped being funny when we got Mike "Shares his porn watchlist with his son" Johnson as Speaker. At least McCarthy was a politician and not a crazy, religious zealot two heartbeats from the presidency.
Republicans --We Always Have Someone Worse Than the Last Guy
- Things have always gotten worse with Republicans. It does not ever get better. What we had last week is better than what we'll be dealing with next week.
  This has always been their way.
  
  Things have always gotten worse with ~~Republicans~~ America.
  Feels like the old Russian mantra applies to us more and more these days. "And then things got worse."
  
  GQP — There is no bottom.
- To be honest, I’m not sure who is better or worse between the two. Democrats at least appreciate that Johnson usually keeps his word during negotiations.
- At least McCarthy was a politician and ~~not~~ a crazy, ~~religious~~ P2025 zealot two heartbeats from the presidency.
  
  and got replaced by a looney right wing closeted christian.
- Meh, fuck ‘em.

Kevin McCarthy can go fuck himself. Seriously. I don’t care WHAT he says. He’s a fucking shill and helped flush the country down the drain. Fuck anything that bastard says.

The dems have been in dire need of a new leader and new ideas. Hopefully not just AOC but many more young inspired people will stand up alongside her.
- That one running for office, Kat Abughazaleh. We need lots more people just like that
  
  Kat looks awesome.
  
  Yes we definitely need more of them. And we need to vote for them and stand up for our rights and beliefs regardless.

AOC, and progressives in general, taking over the Democratic party is the only hope for its successful continuation. Assuming we have elections.

Don't threaten me with a good time.

She IS the leader of the Democratic Party.
- Lol yeah, she's touring the country throwing rallies while Schumer is trying to lead, "We stand with Israel. We will win." chants with the least amount of charisma possible and Jefferies is doing interviews and insisting the Democrats' biggest issue is messaging.
  
  Well he’s not that far off.
- If only by forfeit.

I'd be happy to see an AOC/Buttigieg ticket in 2028.
Warren for sec of treasury. Walz for HUD or even better, cabinet level position in charge of figuring out the young man problem. He's representative of the role model a lot of young men are missing imho.
I don't wanna see another dem pres candidate that's older than me (mid 50s) EVER AGAIN. The problems my kids are facing aren't going to be fixed by old people, and while I'm not quite there yet, I'm fucking close enough.
- There is zero reason to throw a moderate on there.
  Run a fair primary and number 2 gets first right if refusal for vice.
  If they don't want it, let the candidate pick their running mate.
  
  You throw a "white moderate" in there to appease their voters and then ignore everything they say while sabotaging their elections.
  
  I mean VP in recent history is there to balance the ticket. If the presidential candidate is weak in one area, they pick a VP strong in that area. Sometimes the VP is just to lock in a competitive state.
  The winner picks the VP. If number 2 works well, great, but the winner picks.
  
  They just need a candidate that can get 100m votes. Like it should not be hard in the age of stolen data to pick a person who can get 100m people off the couch. I don’t care what the Democrats like at this point. If we can’t figure out a candidate and policy that will invigorate 100,000,000 people we don’t even deserve to be running.
  can you get 1/3 of the country to vote against fascism? challenge: impossible
- I understand wishes, but let's be realistic.
  Nearly half the voters went for Trump, even after everything from pussy grabbing to January 6.
  If AOC god the nod, she'd have to have someone like Manchin as Veep.
  
  I know the argument constantly rages - too left! Too centrist! and I don't know which one would be more effective.
  On the other hand, the closest we've come to a real left candidate at least in my lifetime was Sanders and the thumb on the scale against him was pretty corporate blue - and the mainstream lost, so maybe we should try it the other way?
- Ya my mom can barely grasp what’s going on right now. No concept of the future beyond her life. I’m pushing 40 and got no idea what the kids want or need or how our education system got so fucked. we really can’t be having geriatrics making policy that will affect the future beyond their immediate life
  
  I would support a cutoff for president at say 60 when starting office, that would keep us below 70 for a two-termer. That's plenty old enough.
  Also the 18 year rolling term limit idea for SCOTUS.
- in charge of figuring out the young man problem
  Both a great idea and one that will absolutely piss of the conservatives that are happy to see their young men embrace far right ideologies even if it comes with violent hatred in the process.
  
  This was a great podcast episode that addresses the young men issue directly. Scott Galloway has been talking about it for a while.
  https://overcast.fm/+ABEb8GDsq4Q
  At about 70 minutes, he states that the greatest innovation from the United States is the middle class, and he makes a good argument IMHO. He talks about how there were about seven million men that came back from World War II having proven themselves, with some confidence, and of course being in uniform doesn't hurt. They had opportunity for education, help with starting a career and affording a home, and all that made them attractive mates and led to the baby boom and the rise of the middle class. (I know it's an oversimplification, of course.)
  Here's a fun conspiracy theory for you – what if somebody recognizes that sequence of events and thinks the best thing we could do would be to replicate it? If that was your goal, what would you do to make it happen, but with a twist to the far right?
- I’d be happy to see an AOC/Buttigieg ticket in 2028.
  I would fear for AOC's safety with Buttigieg as her VP. And not just because he's McKinsey. Because there are a lot of democrats that hate her and would consider Buttigieg an acceptable replacement.
- You think that's the problem. Old people running? No, it's this lopsided old people majority that the baby boom brought. They could run, but no one would vote for them.
  Until we die off and get out of the way, this isn't going to change.

McCarthy's dumb as a bag of pea gravel and this is his idea of scaremongering.

About time. The Dems need about as much fixing as the rest of the country. At the moment, they are not even a functioning opposition party.

Who cares what Macarthy thinks. He’s a republican that bent the knee. He belongs in prison with the rest of the traitors.
Don’t buy into this garbage. Just another attempt at dividing people.
- He's just butthurt mtg and gaetz ousted him

Kevin McCarthy is a traitor to the American people, a disgrace to Bakersfield, and just a weak example of a male human.

She's young, she could decide to run for Chuck's Senate seat in 2028. She would be just as compelling a Presidential candidate in 2032 or 2036....
.... But if a fair election is held in 2028, it is essential that Democtats field the best possible candidate, not just the next one up. (Hi, Gavin!) If AOC thinks that's her, then I will happily support that. If she supports someone else (Booker, Walz, etc), I will also be listening. But if we fuck this one up, and Vance or Eric Trump or Sean Hannity get elected, that might be game over for Democracy here. We may not get another chance.
As a NY State resident, I am eagerly looking forward to voting for AOC in some capacity in 2028, whether it's for Senator, VP, or President. I'll let her decide where she thinks she can create the most change.
- Eh if it’s just Vance running, I wouldn’t be too worried. The man has the charisma of a flopping fish
  
  They might put him forward precisely because he has no charisma. The understanding would be that Trump was calling the shots, even if he didn't hold the office. Puppets stop flopping around once their controller puts their hand up their ass and grabs the controls
  
  HW bush ran and won off the senile ghost of Reagan's charisma...
  Vance could too.
  But we should still run AOC now, because after 8 years of AOC, there's be new blood
  There's never a reason to "save" a candidate, and nothing is stopping her from being a senator after.
  Seniority being important is something that the old guard just agreed on.
  
  This is true, and it only got dramatically worse after they took office. The way he handled the Zelinsky visit was abominable, so he gets to tack that onto his resume now.

Oh, just STFU, and GTFO.

this is one case where I hope McCarthy is right. Might be a few election cycles before some tangible change, but it needs to happen.

God willing

I do believe that is the intent yes.

Cheers bro i’ll drink to that

Sure looks like republicans are scared of AOC.
But centrists saw a progressive woman seizing the moment and suddenly decided that women can't win.
- AOC makes Trump and his shit-lickers afraid. Pelosi and Schumer don't spark any fear.
  And the DNC keeps the ones who he can rally around the flag to blame for anything bad. Because no one really likes Pelosi and Schumer. People like AOC.
  Remember when calling them weird was working, making them cower and the media loved it? And then they just... Stopped because how dare anyone be rude to fascists.

Its possible. There's nobody I can see who could lead the party at this point? Gavin Newsom? He's a DINO.
- What are you talking about? Newsom embodies the modern Democrats