How likely you believe that Fediverse could accomodate EU citizens if US big tech leave the EU?
How likely you believe that Fediverse could accomodate EU citizens if US big tech leave the EU?
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I hate to break it to you β but we're already here.
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There are dozens of us! Dozens!
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I think they might mean all european social media users. The vast majority of those are still on corpo socials.
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Could you elaborate on what you mean please?
Edit: I seem to be getting downvotes, so Id just like to clarify, I wasnt being smart or sarcastic in any way, just genuinely didnt understand what the comment OP meant xD
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π€£
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What does the fediverse have to do with that?
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This question is nonsensical. Let's say Amazon leaves the EU. What does that have to do with the Fediverse? If all US social media companies left, people will find other forums to engage in. This could be the Fediverse, could be something else that hasn't been created yet.
In the long run, I think we will all end up on a version of federated social media. The corporate silos will lose their appeal, regardless of where they're based. Whether this future federated service will be based on Activity Pub or AT or whatever protocol no one knows right now.
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I think you overestimate the normie mindset. Most people want a heavily curated, walled garden and silos which high-end corps provide, if sold under convenience. Most are not going to go around looking at say Lemmy or Mastodon instances and pick and decide. Most people who use WhatsApp can barely switch to something that does not utterly spy on them despite the fact they know that Meta spies on their Meta data. FB is wretched but it has billions of user, alone. Doubt it will be the fediverse.
If this is to be believed, all Lemmy users do not even break 433,300 users total. Unless I am reading it wrong.
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"In the long run" does a lot of the heavy lifting there. We've gone from indiscriminately giving our data away 25 years ago, to having a sizable chunk of people like you and me who are aware of the data siphoning and take steps to curb the flow today. In another 25 years, I think users' mindsets will have changed enough for my prediction to have a chance in hell of becoming true. I hope to see the day.
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wth is this question
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Probably another big tech would fill the gap before. Sad, but that's the most likely outcome.
I would say (and I know that is a controversial opinion this one) that the fediverse itself is a little to blame here. Not because the technical difficulties to join in that are not that bad, but because most people in the fediverse want everyone here to have a very characteristic political ideology and to be very passionate about it. Like 90% (exaggerating here)of what I read here and in mastodon are politics (more so politics from a very specific pov), even after I made a big effort to get away from political communities.
Most people have not that particular ideology or are not that passionate about it, so they take a look of what's going on here and take the sane decision of not joining in.
I actually think that's the bigger impediment for the fediverse to become mainstream.
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Totally agree. A lot of negative people here that will push away the average person. Iβm talking about political fanatics of course. Maybe some subs need to create a no politics rule.
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I block all politics.
Lemmy.zip has implemented Default Blocks so that new joiners have politics communities hidden from their All feed: https://lemmy.zip/post/33065677
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The fediverse feels laggy at prime time and we are nowhere near Reddit size. I wonder if it can scale to handle millions of users.
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Are you asking if the stricter EU laws around social media in the EU could affect how something like lemmy.world could exist there vs the US?
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