McCarthy out as speaker

Now what? So it's just chaos for the rest of the session?

In contrast to the order and dignity that prevailed until now?
- The members are reminded to abide by decorum of the House.
I did some reading up on this, and there is a difference between the situations now and January. Back in January, the House couldn't formally start anything for the new Congress until the Speaker was elected. So no committees could be established, no hearings could be held, and new members couldn't even be sworn in.

But now, all that stuff has happened, so technically committees can still hold hearings. But when the whole House is in session, the only thing they can consider is the Speaker election.

If this goes on for a few days, I wonder if any Republicans will have the chutzpah to hold those Biden Impeachment hearings while they still can't yet decide on a Speaker....
- It’ll go on until some legislation that gives a big break to billionaires needs to move forward in the house, and then all the GOP lickspittles will snap into line faster than they can cash a campaign finance check.
- Yes. They will absolutely hold hearings to “own the libs” if they have any option to. It gives them something to pivot to when asked questions that they don’t want to answer (pretty much EVERY question these days).
- Can the speaker pro tempore preside? I’m not sure I’ve seen a good resource on that (or who is third in line for the presidency).
- So what does this mean Wrt the shutdown? No discussion can happen? And if there's no new speaker in 43 days is there an automatic shutdown?
- But how the hearings can be scheduled if there is no speaker?
No. There is the Speaker Pro Temp. They'll run the chamber until a new vote. Speaker votes don't need to happen any time soon either. Unlike the start of the term, the members are already sworn in and can go about regular business.

The current Pro Temp is a McCarthy ally who was in the debt ceiling negotiations. So we'll probably see the same as what McCarthy would be doing.
- To give an idea of what to expect, the Pro Temp Speaker's first action after graveling out like he was swinging Mjolnir was to evict Nancy Pelosi from her office despite the fact that she's in California attending Feinstein's funeral.
Pretty much.
That would be different from the norm how exactly?

Yeah bruh, maybe fucking stop voting for republicans.

"I HAVE TO MAKE SURE MUH TAXES AIN'T GOIN' TO THE URBANS!"
- But what if I become a billionaire? I would've earned it fair and square.

Kevin McCarthy just found out in the hardest way possible that Nancy Pelosi only made it look easy.

Haha, good riddance.

I'm curious why you find it funny? What is your proposal for the government to move forward without the speaker?

I'm the anarchist and I don't find that kind of chaos funny.
- You’re laughing? A soulless politician sacrificed every ounce of his dignity to become Speaker of the House only to be fired by Matt Gaetz, famous sex pervert, and you’re laughing?
- You sure you're an anarchist? I'd think that the failure of the US government would be a key point in developing local communes. It kind of forces self determination on folks.
- Oh no, whatever will we do without a speaker?! Everything was working so well up until now. Lmao.
  
  You are not an anarchist.
- The government was struggling to move forward with the speaker they had... it sucks that this kind of chaos is occurring, but it's hardly a new thing. It's been escalating for years. It's just this time it bit one of the perpetrators in the ass.
- I’m the anarchist
  
  I don't believe you.
- You’re not much of an anarchist then. I think hierarchies falling over is as hilarious as it is predictable
- How is this chaos any different from when he was still speaker? He took us to the edge of a shutdown just days ago. The chaos has already arrived my friend. At least now their incompetence is on full display and will potentially kill any chance for a majority in the next election.

Couldn't have happened to a better person.

Because a better person wouldn't be dumb enough to be the Republican Speakers of the House.

Gym Jordan's gonna bust out his finest blazer.

Wait! I need to get some popcorn! This is going to be an absolute shit show!

Like it’s been a smooth operation so far, right?

Huh. I totally thought Dems would save him.

Love when Dems surprise me!

The fool that he is McCarthy went on Face the Nation and blamed the very Dems that were working with him. The interviewer laughed at him. I'm sure that helped.
Reminds me of that scene from Gladiator where you're not sure if the emperor is going to put his thumb up or down.

Republicans right now:

You should have fixed your democracy when it was still possible.....

Where were you 40 years ago? You really let us down by waiting so long to let us know.
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This isn't the first time democracy in the U.S. has been under threat and from much greater forces than Trump and the GQP. We're not yet to the place where say, a coalition of countries from around the world are forced to go to war with us and ultimately dismantle the fascist dictatorship we allowed to take over our country.

This is what I don't get. Yeah McCarthy is a weasel. But by republican standards he's still fairly moderate. By the Dems helping to push him out, I can pretty much guarantee that whoever replaces him will be 100x worse. Like speaker majorie green. And with another budget battle coming in 6 weeks, I think the Democrats voted very foolishly today. Their votes definitely aren't going to make things any better.

Stop blaming Democrats for the inability of the Republicans to govern. They made this mess and I'm not going to sit by while some dumbass like you tries to blame everybody but them.
- No, the republicans are 100% to blame here. They're an absolute joke. But we still have a country to run, and the Democrats usually govern from a pragmatic viewpoint.
  
  What's better for America?
  
  keep McCarthy in the speaker seat for another 16 months and take the wind out of the sails of the maga extremists, and have a speaker who twice already has compromised with the Democrats when the clock ran down.
  
  help the maga extremists remove McCarthy and then the country goes into a quagmire of no house leadership for 6 months, causing massive amounts of suffering to government employees and others who depend on the government because of the 5 month long government shutdown that ensues.
  
  McCarthy is a piece of shit, hell all the republicans are, but now Matt Gaetz has a taste of power. And I don't know if you've heard him speak, but he seems pretty intelligent. He could end up being the "smart version of Trump" that we've all been fearing. As bad as McCarthy has been, I have a feeling the next speaker will be worse.
  
  That is not blaming the Democrats for what is happening. I'm just shocked that they aren't doing some damage control. It's like when King Solomon had 2 women fighting over a baby. So he offers to cut the baby in half. And one woman says "no, she can have the baby!" and he knows she's the real mother. The Democrats are usually like her.
  
  At the same time, I bet McCarthy's stress level just went from 1000 to 1. LOL
Greene won't get the votes.

I think what you're missing or weren't paying attention to was the fact this all would have been avoided had McCarthy just stuck with the deal from the Debt Ceiling.

Dems didn't push him out. They just didn't save him after he said he wouldn't negotiate with them. He also spent all weekend going off on Dems on all the Sunday shows when it was his own caucus holding talks hostage.

I think you don't know enough to really speak on the topic.
- I know a lot more than you realize. I wrote another reply that explains a bit more. I'm just trying to be pragmatic here about what's best for the country. We have no speaker now, with a pending government shutdown in just a few weeks. And we saw how long it took for those lunatics to confirm McCarthy, when they already had a speaker lined up. They don't even have a replacement lined up. They're the dog that managed to catch the car. Things are about to get a lot worse in Washington, and that's not even including the fact that the next speaker will be even worse. I understand why the Democrats are pissed off at him, he's an asshole. There was also a point in time when everyone thought Boehner was as bad as it gets.
Democrats didn't help push him out, they just didn't save him.
- Politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!'... and I'll look down and whisper 'No.'"
  
  Rorschach
Everything is the dems fault!