'People Will Not Forget': Fury as Schumer Caves to Trump-Musk Destruction
"Working people are done with performative solidarity," said Rep. Delia C. Ramirez in response. "Either you stand with us against the Republican CR, or you stand with the Musk-Trump authoritarian agenda."
Are you guys idiots? The republicans are already fucking up the government, cutting left and right without regard to laws and congress. So you want the democrats to shut the government down to protest ... what exactly? How does this help? This basically takes the narrative that fucked up government programs are now the D's fault when the R's are currently 100% in control.
Too many people here are like kids just wanting to break things. I'm pissed too, but shutting down the government would be the stupidest thing Schumer can do right now. The R's don't care if you shut down the government. They'd be happy. They'd then blame all the liberals for social programs that wouldn't be funded and broken things. If you want to negotiate and play hardball, find something they care about and use that. This aint it.
The entire Democratic Party leadership needs to resign and be replaced by people who will actually fight for working Americans.
In November Schumer and the other leaders suffered the worst defeat in party history yet they haven't realized the only thing left for them to do is resign in shame.
"VoTe BlUe no mAtTeR who"
Liberals as always would rather side with fascists.
How are you gonna explain this one away @someguy3@lemmy.world ?
Call your democratic rep and demand that they insist Schumer resign.
(202) 224-3121
At this point, I am Not donating a single dollar more to the party. I won’t vote for a democrat at the top of the ticket and will pick a DSA candidate or green candidate. If the democrats aren’t willing to fight for democracy or strengthen it when they’re in power, I won’t reward them with votes.
Every democrat senator needs to be primaried.
Just for the record, this is what democrats always do, and it's why they keep fucking losing.
Democrats would rather have trump than have a social-democratic platform, and it shows every time they have the opportunity to fight him and chose to capitulate instead. The democrats aren't a left-wing party, certainly not now, and arguably not since FDR.
Two sides of the same coin if you will.
Do-nothing Democrats strike again.
Schumer is a coward and a fraud. The weakest leader in a generation. He should resign in shame.
Rumor is that he's doing it because he has a book tour starting tomorrow and if there's a shut down he can't go. Fucking cretin.
"People will not forget!"
Ron Howard: "They Would."
Perfect encapsulation of the state of the Dem leadership:
"Chuck Schumer caving and saying he’ll vote for a blank check for Trump and Musk is demonstrative of why Democrats lose," lamented progressive activist and writer Jonathan Cohn. "Voters so often don’t believe what they [Dem leadership] say because they don’t believe what they say."
(Emphasis and clarification in brackets mine)
Literally less than 24 hours after saying democrats wouldn't support the CR
Absolutely pathetic
I am almost certain that Schumer is being threatened. Not with political consequences, but with actual violence. Maybe against his family. Blackmail at the very least.
I have no love for the man, and while he is a spineless, contemptible coward, something about his sudden reversal on this just doesn't add up. I think there's more at play here than the normal Democrat fecklessness. Someone got to him in a way that goes beyond the typical backroom dealings. I'm calling shenanigans.
Not a sudden reversal, this is all what he wants. The idea that these corporate Democrats are against what Trump's doing is false. Chuck Schumer is perfectly happy with deregulation. He's perfectly happy with rolling back every bit social quality we've established in the last 100 years. All of them are. Neoliberals are 100% okay with Donald Trump.
Except he previously stated his intent to fight, and the rest of the party is absolutely roasting him right now, including some of the most milquetoast centrist Dems. I don't doubt that he's a neolib, but something is off. If this was in any way in the interests of neolib Dems, more of them would be falling in line with him instead of allying with Berniebros and tankies to light his ass up, something I thought hell would freeze over before I would see.
Nah, something's off. Either the rest of the party suddenly grew a spine and some integrity, or someone got to Schumie. The latter is far more likely.
Red... Blue... doesn't matter. A bunch of spineless pussies fill congressional seats assuming if they go along with whatever bullshit is presented they'll keep getting their cushy salaries and excellent benefit packages.
Every one of the fuckers needs to be on unemployment.
Schumer is a traitor, capitulator and collaborator.
his response to ice literally kidnapping a man for speech was three paragraphs of "oh yeah totally fuck him hate how fucking Arab he is" before finally saying "but this might be a little bit wrong? uwu" and asking for reasons rather than fucking demanding he be released immediately.
Chuck "blackbagging might be wrong" Schumer. between him and Amy I wonder how much worse a family can get.
fascist collaborator piece of shit.
Surely it's the fault of the voters tho, right? I mean the dems are the good guys! \s
'People Will Not Forget'
They always forget.
Oh damn I'd forgotten about that
opposition party? these motherfuckers may as well be on the same goddamn team.
I quit. American politics are a circus sideshow full of dancing turds. At this point, let it burn. The side that I vote for won’t even stand up against this shit, so what good is my vote now?
Just a bunch of rich assholes doing whatever they want.
That's why the American people have to do it themselves. Take to the streets. The system has failed you. No one will save you but yourselves.
Come to Europe. We got ice cream and free healthcare. Also you don’t need a gun to protect yourself when going out for a walk.
It won’t burn on its own. It will only get worse if left unattended.
"The Republican bill is a terrible option," Schumer said in his remarks. "It is deeply partisan. It doesn't address far too many of this country's needs. But I believe allowing Donald Trump to take even much more power via a government shutdown is a far worse option."
You fucking twat
OK democratic leadership, you win; I'll quit voting for your party.
I said the same shit to my senators and Schumer https://www.schumer.senate.gov/contact/message-chuck. If they don't vote no, I won't vote Dem ever again. Tired of it.
OK democratic leadership, you win; I’ll quit voting for your party.
May not matter at the rate we're going.
Way i look at it if does then the threat was overblown and they're undeserving anyways.
Just quitting voting isn’t enough, join a local political group. Worst case scenario, they get radical and you’re too into it so you end up on the news. Best case scenario, they get radical and you’re not into it so you go home and plan your meals for the week.
And vote Republican instead? Yeah, that'll show'em.
your braindead take is exactly how you got into this mess
congratulation you filthy trump supporter
If Republicans didn't have majority then there wouldn't be any DNC making difficult choices. Not voting for democrats is exactly what caused this problem you're supposedly outraged by.
My initial reaction is anger, but hearing his reasoning, I fear that he might be correct.
"I believe allowing Donald Trump to take even much more power via a government shutdown is a far worse option."
What's his reason for saying this? How does a government shutdown give Trump more power?
I say this with no sarcasm whatsoever... Its not like anyone is opposing Trump anyway so what's the point of capitulating and preventing a govt shutdown... There is no point other than bending a fucking knee.
A congressional recess during shutdown means that nobody would be left to hold Trump accountable. Except, they're already not doing that, so...
If the goverment shuts down, the buildings and agencies will be empty, because all government workers will be home. But DOGE and Musk arent government workers, and theyll have unimpeded access to EVERYTHING, with absolutely nobody to observe what they are doing.
It doesn't. He is lying and he knows it. I won't attempt to recreate his spin, because it doesn't make any sense.
Congress in theory has the power to hold back, punish, or even remove the president. The government shutdown causes a congressional recess.
Citing what I saw on Philip DeFranco earlier, apparently in a shutdown the executive branch has a lot of power in terms of what specifics get shutdown and how.
Was news to me considering the shitshow that happens every time the budget needs to be voted on but with all the DOGEness going on makes sense that there's extra caution around this. Still sucks that Dems rolled over so easily.
Yeah that's my question too. Does it unlock some military related powers? Maybe if there is no gov theres no legal oversight power?
It doesn't unlock anything new, it just removes the lion handler from the lion's circus act. Although, that lion handler was a Republican majority and wasn't doing anything anyways.
What the fuck.
Cowardly traitor.
Don't fuck with chuck
