News @lemmy.world stopthatgirl7 @kbin.social 9 mo. ago

Trump Attorney Screwup Means Trump Won’t Get Jury Trial in NY Fraud Case

www.meidastouch.com /news/donald-trump-will-not-get-a-jury-trial-in-new-york

Due to an oversight, Trump's attorneys failed to ask for a jury trial within the time allotted to them

45 comments

The guy with a reputation for not paying his attorneys is having trouble attracting good legal council?

Shocked. I'm shocked.
- His lawyers probably didn’t expect to juggle a dozen trials at the same time. That, and, no one even halfway competent would ever work for Trump. Most of his previous attorneys are codefendants in his criminal trials at this point.
I can hear the ineffective assistance of counsel appeal being typed up now.
- "OK so what's our strategy here?"
  
  "Well, I'm going to be so incompetent that when you're inevitably found guilty you can appeal on the basis that I'm incompetent"
  
  "Genius. I love it."
- Doubtless they will turn it a day late, and a dollar short. SMH
- I'll write the order denying it - no prejudice given the mountains of evidence so he can '"get fukt".
So the repeated (ad nauseum) Trump claim "I only hire the best people" isn't accurate?
- It's absolutely accurate, we just never asked by what metric "best" was being measured.
  
  "Best" in this case was apparently "someone dumb enough to think Trump won't screw them out of money." :P
  
  “They didn’t ask for payment up front.”
- I'll let the team over at Legal Eagle answer that one
  
  So, I must have followed a link to one of their videos at some point, because the YouTube algorithm spammed me their shit for months until I blocked it.
  
  What kind of content is it? The thumbnails and titles looked rage baity
- I only hire the best people*
  
  *that will actually agree to work for me, which is a small and shrinking list.
  
  and probably not get paid
- If Trump could hire the best lawyers money could buy, he would.
  
  Problem is he is either stiffed his previous lawyers, so the smart ones don't trust him.
  
  Or those lawyers are now witnesses in his legal battles. So they can't represent him.
  
  Yeah when your lawyers have to record you (believe it's something from Cohen's testimony) to have a backup of what you requested, you don't get the best lawyers. Trump would never hire someone that seems smarter them himself, he has to be the most intelligent person in the room (lol). No one intelligent would really act dumb enough to be hired by someone who is notorious for not paying, mean unless there's other factors but he's not getting a highly regarded and clean lawyer at this point.
I’m just some idiot on the internet who doesn’t know what I’m talking about, but…

Is it possible this isn’t a mistake? If you’re going to try to win a trial through corruption and wrongdoings, it seems easier to illicitly win over (and have it stay quiet) one person than half of a jury, no?
- This judge already appears to have an axe to grind with Trump, so, uh, it probably would have been easier with a jury.
  
  That's their play, they don't want a jury because they're trying to pay the groundwork for a mistrial via judicial bias but that is a high jump and they're stumbling on molehills.
- Not a mistake. They plan to win on appeal.
- Sounds like he's setting up an appeal to a sympathetic judge on the basis of "the evil liberals were mean to me!"
- You only need one juror though, no?
  
  I’m honestly not sure. Does a jury vote need to be unanimous for a guilty verdict?
Oh no. 🍿
I posted this story in politics from another source a few days ago and it was removed because apparently the source wasn’t good enough and people couldn’t find it anywhere else. It was the only source reporting it at the time, but ok then.

edit: guess it was farther back than I remember, here’s that article from ~3 weeks ago

https://washingtonpress.com/2023/09/12/attorney-error-trump-eschews-jury-in-manhattan-case/

edit2: yep, 19 days ago
- Quit being so fast and accurate with your news! This isn’t Reuters!
  
  Sorry sorry I’ll build in a delay from now on.
Permanently Deleted
- Yes, because they fully believe that 40% of the nation would exonerate him. So they want jury trials to be stacked with loyalists. There is also the possibility that they want to know who will make the decision so they can be coerced.
  
  Slash have his cult threaten their lives. He's already gotten away with it a couple times without anything happening so why not again?
  
  It depends on where the jury pool comes from. I doubt that 4 people in Manhattan or Brooklyn would want to exonerate him, much less 40%. But if they can pull from Staten Island as well, his chances of finding at least one goober who would be willing to ignore the facts and exonerate him get larger.
- Given the stack of damning evidence against him, probably. Jury's adds an unknown quantity. So if you think you can win without on, you should not request one.
- I think this is one of the trials with a Judge that he did not appoint...so he probably did in this one.
  
  NY city, not federal. The judge was not appointed by trump at all (and trump has been incredibly hostile to said judge,)
Lol this is fantastic. The trial is going to be an absolute blast :D
Did he fire his attorneys? No? Then it was on purpose. He's building up to some political bullshit.
It also really limits his appeals options.
Good. Let's hope that this is just the first of stupidities he stumbles over. Didn't he already piss off the judge that presides over this case?
I'd love to see the judge rule from the bench on this.

You've viewed 45 comments.