UFO hearing key takeaways: What a whistleblower told Congress about UAP
UFO hearing key takeaways: What a whistleblower told Congress about UAP
A former military intelligence officer-turned-whistleblower told House lawmakers that Congress is being kept in the dark about unidentified anomalous phenomena.
Rep. Nancy Mace: "If you believe we have crashed [non-human space]craft...do we have the bodies of the pilots...?"
David Grusch: "As I've stated...biologics came with some of these recoveries."
Mace: "Were they Human or non-human?"
Grusch: "Non-human."
Incredible if true. If evidence is declassified supporting this it seems we owe a lot of apologies to a lot of people who were written off as kooks. The implications for humanity seem potentially huge.
I'm surprised this isn't front page news.
If evidence is declassified supporting this it seems we owe a lot of apologies to a lot of people who were written off as kooks.
No, not really. Aliens existing, even aliens having crashed on Earth, would not mean that all the conspiracy bullshit that people came up with is real. This is a really stupid take and makes you sound like those people in /r/conspiracy.
I'm surprised this isn't front page news.
Because it, as it did before, still lacks any sort of evidence. This is literally the same message we've seen weeks ago and I did not care about it then either.
He didn't give a single tangible thing in the hearing. I know.... he can't due to the classified nature of it, but then what's the point if you can't prove anything?
If evidence is declassified supporting this it seems we owe a lot of apologies to a lot of people who were written off as kooks.
No, not really. Aliens existing, even aliens having crashed on Earth, would not mean that all the conspiracy bullshit that people came up with is real. This is a really stupid take and makes you sound like those people in /r/conspiracy.
You seem intent on interpreting the quoted bit in the worst possible way. At a minimum proof of a crash or interaction, even if it was one time, even if it was 10000 years ago, would be enough to stop having to hear someone think they were the first person to bring up the Fermi Paradox every time the topic is discussed.
You can't even theorize lightly about scenarios where there might have been extraterrestrial interaction with Earth in most contexts without being pretty much branded a kook.
It would fundamentally change quite a lot I think, even if the immediate impact would be negligible.
The last time UFOs were front page news in multiple newspapers was in 1952 when there were multiple sightings over Washington DC.
That same year Gene Pope, a graduate of MIT in only three years, leaves the CIA's psyops program to buy up the National Enquirer.
Within two years, he turns it into a gossip rag frequently featuring UFO stories alongside outlandish claims about Elvis still living, etc.
He also later has the Weekly World News with batboy.
So there's an explicitly manufactured reason that this isn't front page news which goes back over 70 years, and very much ties in with elements of the actual hearing.
Funny this happened the same day McConnell has a stroke in the capital. Curious 👀
No shit?!
Edit: so far all we know is that he froze in the middle of a speech and just stared off into space for 20-30 seconds until some other Republicans moved him out of the way and took over the press conference. Apparently he went to his office and then came back a few minutes later and answered questions from reporters, so I don't know if it's really a stroke.
He was thinking about his involvement in disclosure
Maybe he was visited by 3 ghosts?
https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/110782298043858151
"If Trump knew about it, he would have told everyone, bragged about it, kept boxes of documents about it at Mar-A-Lago, etc. There would be a ketchup stained original photograph of an alien autopsy on the floor of his bathroom."
This is kind of a funny inversion of typical political distraction games. Instead of 'Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain' we're getting 'Let's pay attention to this guy saying there's aliens behind every curtain. But still pay no attention to those guys behind me shoveling money into my pockets.'
While I can't speak for the congresspeople's motivations, Grusch seems very credible and someone who could reasonably make such claims given his background and experience. More info about his claims here.
Of course, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and it's hard to know what's really there given the classified nature of a lot of this. I'm hoping for more information to either prove or disprove his claims.
It's a great deal for Grusch too. Massive media attention he can turn into book deals and speaking engagements for a lifetime and zero consequences for never even trying to provide proof of his claims. He gets to be a lifetime hero to people that 'want to believe' and in a month no one else will remember his name enough to challenge any of his claims.
"I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program to which I was denied access,” basically adds up to "I totally worked on this super secret project that I can't tell you about".
He never actually said he has any evidence, just beliefs.
He's not a whistle-blower, he's a dupe.
They do it every time they want to keep inquiring and suspicious people distracted.
Once is an occurrence. Twice is a coincidence. Every few years for the past six decades is a pattern. Nothing ever comes of it but in the end new shit got to happen without interruption.
Like how do these people believe the government can keep aliens a secret but they won't buy that?
Edit, watch AOCs questions in that hearing. She is hot onto the point: she asks specific questions about the process and requirements for reporting phenomenon to Congress. She's doing that because this entire hearing is focused on whether grusch endured reprisals for whistleblowing. That's all they care about, that's what the House Oversight Committee does. And when she gets to the root, Grusch goes anxious, stutters, etc. But when he's talking about his claims it's highly scripted, no stutters, nothing.
Grusch is using the whistleblower protections to grandstand, AOC knows it. He's gonna be facing perjury charges within a month, bet. I'll bet even further, he's gonna flee the country and then claim the warrant they put out for him is "targeted" at him for whistleblowing. Conspiracy con artists all operate on the same script.