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dumnezero @piefed.social

3w ago

sudo ...for windows

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/sudo/

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So can you run sudo rm -rf C: to remove the malware now?
- No you can't do that with administrator in windows.
  Some things, windows just won't let you do, even as an administrator.
  
  which is good, to be clear
  no user should be able to accidentally brick their entire system just because some internet troll told them to type some magic words :P massive security flaw

Way to lazy to find a source but IIRC one of the Sudo devs said this was horrible because it's "like Sudo" but not 1:1 so people will make assumptions about it that will lead to security issues
(Usually idc about security but for Sudo..)
- Like that time they made their own Powershell imitation of curl? (before deciding it was an abomination and finally including stock curl, but not removing the old Powershell commandlet because of backwards compatibility so now curl and curl.exe are two different things and you'll want the latter)
  
  Yeah that sounds like Microsoft.
  
  Or renaming things for seemingly no reason.
- Which is frustrating because 99% of the time people just want a way to run a command as admin without relaunching cmd as an admin.
- So it's a pseudo sudo?

Wsl, sudo ... Maybe step by step windows will turn into Linux. For sure it would be an unexpected way for Linux to conquer the desktop market
- Hardcore Linux users would still not count it and would still wait for Linux on desktop to finally take off.
  Source: Linux has 6.73% share on desktop. Except 2.25 percent points are ChromeOS, which is not FOSS enough, so Linux only has 4.48% on desktop.
  
  There is no such thing as "FOSS enough" or "not enough FOSS" it's either free/libre or it's not
  (and ChromeOS most definitely isn't)
  
  If I could replace the windows ui with gnome, I'd do it.
- at one point, microsoft will put all of their software into a VM and ship that on a linux platform. that will do.
  
  Do what Apple did - take the BSD kernel and build the userland on top of it. NT is fucked beyond repair, let it die.
  
  They essentially would just need to develop their own Wine
- And don't forget the horrible practice of putting everything in ~/ because everyone loves cluttered home directories
  I tried the new Microsoft aishell on Windows 11 and the config is saved on ~.aishell instead of %appdata%\Microsoftaishell
  WTF Microsoft you forgot that you're on windows?? Can you follow the guidelines that you decided?
- Maybe one day, the Windows UI will only be one of the many Linux window managers, and the rest of Windows will just be a compatibility layer.

look what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power
- That's immediately what came to mind when I saw it

Shoudlnt this be "admdo" or something like that?
- Windo
  
  Is that where you get that black jedi to do it for you? Cause that sounds problematic.

no, microsoft. the linux cli tools are good but thats not the main reason why we ditched you.
- Definitely not due to the lack of sudo.

FYI this has already been a thing for a long while thanks to an open source third-party implementation, and also works on Windows 10. I use it all the time, it's very similar to Linux's and I've never had any issues so far. Not sure if Microsoft's official solution will be any different/better.
https://github.com/gerardog/gsudo

They know they are losing a lot of the technical crowd...

🤡
- Don't need sudo to run clown
  
  What does the "cl" stand for?

sudon't

Is this just some sort of alias to "runas"?
- I believe so, yeah. I used to have a script that would start a local Cassandra service and that's what I had to use (because I didn't want my live-in session of cmd to be admin 24/7.

$ sudo usermod -l root susudio
$ su susudio
# ohh
Don't do this, it summons an angry Phil

3rd party sudo for Windows https://github.com/janhebnes/chocolatey-packages/tree/master/Sudo
- Now do rm /bin/rm

It feels like a potential security nightmare. If your desktop at work is compromised and you have your domain admin come over and take a look; they might decide not to elevate the whole session, exercising appropriate caution and protocol in doing so, but just wing it with a quick sudo !! because the previous command didn't go through.
I don't quite remember if this works properly, but I think !! should expand to sudo "previous command" at least in bash.
- it uses the UAC flow so it’s closer to right click > run as administrator than runas, so you will be required to enter credentials in the UAC dialogue (not the terminal) unless you are using an admin account (which at any workplace taking security seriously you should not be)
  and in powershell it’s $$ to execute the previous command :)
  disclaimer: not an admin i just use these tools

I love this lol

Engineering 100
- Enjinir

audo - admin-user do

Did they port the whole thing or just made something similar?
- Made similar

Ironically it already exists for Windows here and Microsoft didn't bother crediting any of it
https://github.com/lukesampson/psutils
- it’s an entirely different implementation which is integrated into the windows system and settings itself not just a ps script. read the link in OP for more.

peak comedy

Yes?

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